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re: Why do you have Wilt Chamberlain in your top 5 all-time?
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:26 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:26 am to StrongBackWeakMind
I can tell you aren't much and would rather not deal with you.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:28 am to airfernando
I hope this is a troll post, but in the case it is not, you are an idiot.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:28 am to cypressbrake3
Says the guy (a) clearly wrong about who backed out of the fight and (b) doesn't think Wilt would get his arse kicked. ETA: Hell, you made it sound like Ali would lose.
Yeah, I'm the mental midget.
Run a simple Google search. It's all there.
Yeah, I'm the mental midget.
Run a simple Google search. It's all there.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:30 am to shel311
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Eh, the context of pace is important when talking about the old guys stats from back in the 60s.
i agree with the rest of your post though, Wilt is a stone cold top 5 lock.
I agree with context of pace based on the scoring era, but he made a massive jump. I need proof before telling me 50/30 --> 30/15. Those are not even close.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:40 am to cypressbrake3
quote:If you're 63, that means you were 6 years old when Wilt entered the NBA.
I'm 63 and I saw Wilt plenty of times on TV.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:41 am to PrimeTime Money
He is in my top 5 because I saw him play complete games, both with the 76ers and Lakers. I was too young to see him play with the Warriors. How can anyone think someone who averaged over 30ppg and 22rpg in his career wasn't a top 5 player? The only other player to average 30ppg is Michael Jordan. The only other player to average over 17rpg is Bill Russell.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:41 am to cypressbrake3
The overall athlete thing is the part about Will that sticks out-- he wasn't just tall and strong: in addition to the 800 he was also at pretty highly regarded high jumper (which when you consider how much body he had to get over the pole is crazy) - - I saw a picture of him playing volleyball where he jumped high enough to make the top of the net even with his waist-- so Shaq with like MJs vertical or LeBron but 6 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:44 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:I posted this in another thread not too long ago:
I agree with context of pace based on the scoring era, but he made a massive jump. I need proof before telling me 50/30 --> 30/15. Those are not even close.
quote:
Let's do another one. How about Wilt Chamberlain in 1961-62?
He averaged 50.4 ppg and 25.7 reb in 48.5 minutes per game... yes, he averaged more minutes than there are in a game.
His team had a pace of 131.1, which was the highest in the league. The highest in the league last year were the Warriors, with a pace of 98.3. So we'll use that pace to compare between eras.
Wilt played the most minutes per game that year, and the player with the most minutes per game last year was Jimmy Butler, who averaged 38.7 minutes per game. So we'll use his minutes to compare.
So if we adjust for pace and minutes using the 2015 drivers, Wilt would average:
30.2 ppg and 15.4 rebounds
Extraordinary stats... but a far cry from the cartoonish stats of 50 points per game and 25 rebounds per game.
Much more realistic to assess him on 30 and 15 when comparing players than 50 and 25.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:51 am to PrimeTime Money
How many games in how many days? Points per shot? Was he likeable in the media? Did he ever appear to give up on his team? Did he blame coaches for team struggles?
If you are going to adjust stats why not discuss other bits of info that factor into top 5 lists?
If you are going to adjust stats why not discuss other bits of info that factor into top 5 lists?
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:52 am to PrimeTime Money
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If you're 63, that means you were 6 years old when Wilt entered the NBA.
It also means he was in college by the time Wilt retired.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:Yeah, which means he was just a little kid during most of Wilt's prime, if not all of it.
It also means he was in college by the time Wilt retired.
Combine that with how little the NBA came on TV back then, and I doubt he really saw a lot of Wilt Chamberlain.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:56 am to PrimeTime Money
You're really trying hard to knight for the modern day player. Sorry that an older generation player was better than some present day player hurts your feelings.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 11:57 am to PrimeTime Money
I like him because he laid a shitload of wood.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
thats a weird thing to lie about, but whatever you want to believe
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:04 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
Yeah, I'm the mental midget.
Yes you are............
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:35 pm to dukke v
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Yes you are............
Of all people to make that insult.
ETA: Anything in particular you disagree with?
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:44 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
ETA: Anything in particular you disagree with?
Nope... You are actually spot on here..... You are still a dickhead...
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:45 pm to dukke v
quote:
You are still a dickhead...
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:48 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Here's a stat:
There were 20,000 bowlegged women walking around in the 60s and 70s.
There were 20,000 bowlegged women walking around in the 60s and 70s.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:52 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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There were 20,000 bowlegged women walking around in the 60s and 70s.
This is just untrue.... He said he had slept with 1,000 women... NO WAY..... That's a staggering # if you think about it........
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