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re: Why did San Francisco draft a QB at #3 if they weren't going to use him right away?

Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:06 pm to
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two future first rounders
Garoppolo’s making at least one of those a pick in the 20’s. It’s not the end of the world.
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If you are going to trade away three first round pics the y needs to be able to make an immediate impact
This is delusional logic. He has 10-15 years in front of him if he’s the guy and Jimmy’s moving on after this year.

The Niners are more than capable of making the NFCCG with JG. Starting a rookie who hasn’t played in 2 years and objectively isn’t ready when you have a better immediate option would be disgraceful sabotage. Starting players who haven’t yet earned it is also how you destroy a locker room.

While you may be, thankfully for the Niners Shanahan isn’t stupid enough to fall for a very basic sunk cost fallacy and isn’t going to frick up the asset that his career is dependent on.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:21 pm to
Some of you are fricking insane
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:28 pm to
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The 49ers aren’t a very smart franchise

yet they have the best qb coach on the planet
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:39 pm to
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This is delusional logic. He has 10-15 years in front of him if he’s the guy


He won’t play 10 years with San Fran. They just wasted one. Why pick in top three if a player is not capable of starting and the guy playing ahead of him is awful?

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While you may be, thankfully for the Niners Shanahan isn’t stupid enough to fall for a very basic sunk cost fallacy


What have you seen that makes you think he was worth three first round picks? If you are not going to play him ahead of Jimmy G then he was not worth three first round picks. I appreciate you can call someone stupid having never met them because they disagree with you and giving away three first round pics to pick a player that is not capable of starting in the NFL ahead of Jimmy G. Players that cannot start immediately. He will be another Daniel Jones. I cannot believe you are pretending to be some football guru and defending this pick. This is bookmarked to tell you I told you so next year and the year after when others are using 49ers picks to get talent while they are stuck with this pick that won’t pan out.

Nobody picks QBs in the top 5 to sit them except you and the 49ers, let alone give up three picks for it.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:50 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 11:06 pm to
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He won’t play 10 years with San Fran. They just wasted one.
No, wasting a year is throwing him out there to die and destroying his confidence if he's not ready when there's another option who's starting to play like he did when he took his team to the Super Bowl 2 years ago.

Also, you realize he gets to practice, right? He gets to watch and learn and start to put things together after a long hiatus from playing. But because he's not rushed out there and getting killed means it's a waste of a year? Get out.
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Why pick in top three if a player is not capable of starting
Because - believe it or not - the NFL doesn't end after the 2021 season.
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and the guy playing ahead of him is awful?
Awful? Would help if you watched his games. At worst he's been top half of the league this season. That is not a situation that most Top 3 picks at QB come into and completely justifies the decision to sit Lance.
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I appreciate you can call someone stupid having never met them because they disagree with you
Disagreement is fine. Idiotic short-sighted logic however is always worth a laugh.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 11:20 pm
Posted by WarDamnSmeagol
Member since Dec 2021
368 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:46 am to
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Rushing a QB into the starting lineup before he’s ready has worked out beautifully for us.

Signed,
Bears and Jets



What does Mahomes career look like if he starts week 1 of his rookie year? I have to think not much different. If Alex Smith is not on the roster at all for him to learn from it makes more of a difference than if he started his first year or his second.

The Chiefs had a good team for him to step into. The Jets definitely don't have that for a QB (But are getting better) and the Bears probably dont either.
Posted by WarDamnSmeagol
Member since Dec 2021
368 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:49 am to
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While you may be, thankfully for the Niners Shanahan isn’t stupid enough to fall for a very basic sunk cost fallacy and isn’t going to frick up the asset that his career is dependent on.


Its a lot easier to win a Super Bowl with a QB on a rookie deal, so its better to find out early if your guy is good or not so you can move on or add to the team. I do think this being a year affected by COVID probably changes things a bit but I don't think punting an entire season is smart under normal circumstances.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:51 am to
What does that word salad even mean?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13621 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:40 am to
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No, wasting a year is throwing him out there to die and destroying his confidence


So they chose a mentally soft QBs with the third round pick.

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Also, you realize he gets to practice, right?


I am not sure I should continue trying to communicate logically because you are misinformed. Backups don’t take 90% of the practice reps in the NFL.

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He gets to watch and learn and start to put things together after a long hiatus from playing.


So your solution to a long hiatus is to make it even longer? Got it. Makes perfect sense.

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Because - believe it or not - the NFL doesn't end after the 2021 season.


Right and believe it or not they will have draft picks next year, too. You are no longer allowed to waste top five QB draft picks on players that won’t play.

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Disagreement is fine. Idiotic short-sighted logic however is always worth a laugh.


I could say precisely the same about you, but I am not because we were raised differently. The only way we will know who is correct is next year at this time and the year after when your boy is either lighting it up or flaming out. I’ll gladly eat crow if I am wrong.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Member since Mar 2009
23040 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:43 am to
The Twitter freak-out about Mac Jones really did happen. San Fran is the peak of woke culture, it is a possibility that they were worried about Mac being a fit. Anyone who was hot on Mac Jones has to be kicking themselves, he has been outstanding.

I think college fans confuse Trey Lance and Jordan Love. Looking forward to seeing which can play well at the NFL level.
Posted by WarDamnSmeagol
Member since Dec 2021
368 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 7:55 am to
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The Twitter freak-out about Mac Jones really did happen. San Fran is the peak of woke culture, it is a possibility that they were worried about Mac being a fit. Anyone who was hot on Mac Jones has to be kicking themselves, he has been outstanding.


Hes also in the most friendly situation you could possibly be in for a young starting QB in my opinion.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:03 am to
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Mom's the definition of a honkey

So is Kaepernick’s, what’s your point?

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34517 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:03 am to
So you'd throw him to the wolves and destroy his confidence permanently?

Glad you're not a coach.

High pick QB's used to sit all the time. It wasn't until Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco started from the get in their rookie years did that start to change. Lance is raw as a fresh onion. You really think throwing him out there from the get is good for him or his confidence? Use your brain, man. And to go ahead and label him a "bust" now is just flat ignorant.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34517 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:07 am to
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What does Mahomes career look like if he starts week 1 of his rookie year?

That was Reid's call. And Mahomes has even said that it was good for him.

You probably aren't that far off though.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1028 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:13 am to
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They also drafted him because when Mac Jones' name was floated as a possible pick at #3, Twitter bots went insane because he wasn't black. Yes, that actually happened, but hardly anyone remembers it now.


Hard to do, but easily some of the dumbest shite I’ve read here. You think they drafted him over Mac Jones because he’s black?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34517 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:15 am to
Like I said yesterday, Mac is absolutely in the best situation of all the 1st Rd.QB's. Put him in JAX or Chicago and he would be awful.

It's all about situations and surroundings.
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1028 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:18 am to
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The Twitter freak-out about Mac Jones really did happen. San Fran is the peak of woke culture, it is a possibility that they were worried about Mac being a fit. Anyone who was hot on Mac Jones has to be kicking themselves, he has been outstanding.


Yea they were so worried about woke culture that they picked outwardly conservative Nick Bosa 2 overall in 2019.
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1028 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:19 am to
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That was Reid's call. And Mahomes has even said that it was good for him.


Hill is quoted saying he and the other vets thought Mahomes was terrible in their first camp with him.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:20 am to
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let alone give up three picks for it.


looks like a sucker move right now.

Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13525 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:21 am to
Aaron Rodgers sat for multiple years behind Favre, seems to have worked out in the long run.
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