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re: Who's the greatest dual threat QB in NFL history?

Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Plus just improving and progression as a passer.

You keep saying he improved, but last year was a big passing year in the NFL in general. He improved some but not as much you think. Numbers like a 66% completion and a 95 QBR years ago would’ve been near the top in the league but this past year it would put a QB near the middle of the pack.
Posted by Othello
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:08 pm to

A lot of people are underestimating what a genuine dual threat QB really is. You see them all over in high school and more and more in college, but they have always been RARE in the NFL.

Fran Tarkington and Roger Staubach were two of my heroes as a kid, but they were not true dual threats. They were guys who held onto the ball too long because they each had an uncanny ability to feel the heat on the back of their neck and slip away into a scramble. They were escape artists, not running backs.

Other guys like Elway (I might even put Young here) were guys who had decent wheels and a strong arm that could force a defense to play deep and then sprint for the sidelines when all the routes were covered. Again, no shame in picking up some cheap first downs, but not a running back

Cam is much more of a novelty than people realize. How much stock you put into that is a separate debate.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:08 pm to
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running for his life behind that Falcons line

just looked it up real quick, in 2006 his O-line had a total of 1 Pro Bowl appearance between 8 guys, and that was in 2010

ETA: 2006 was his 1,000 Yard Season,


that's just ridiculous
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 3:53 am to
Young stayed in the pocket at SF because he could, it was more effective and he was such a great passer but he ran his arse off in Tampa.

If you were just making running ability as equal as passing ability then it's easily Vick.

But this is a passing league.

And when you have a Top 10 passing QB in Young who could also run, he's the obvious be answer.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 6:53 am to
Steve Young and it isn't close.

One of the most accurate passers in NFL history, to go along with a serious run threat.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 7:18 am to
Randall Cunningham was fun to watch.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:15 am to
1. Steve Young
2. Fran Tarkenton
3. Mike Vick
Posted by SoulBrotha91
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 11:36 am to
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And when you have a Top 10 passing QB in Young who could also run, he's the obvious be answer.


At his peak, you could make a reasonable argument that Steve Young was the greatest quarterback of all-time period with the possible exception of Staubach and Tarkenton's best seasons. His 1992-94 stretch is just a clinic in quarterback perfection considering what defenses got away with then with his 1994 season constituting the tour de force: 35-10 TD/INT ratio, 70% completion rate, record (at the time) passer rating of 113, 9.2 AY/A, best record in the league, MVP, and a Super Bowl championship/MVP. Makes Cam look like a total bum to be kind.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Young has 46 more games


Young didn't play much his 1st fours behind Montana and had 2 years in the USFL.

Is this number coming off games started or just games played in.?

It also somewhat to only include yards when comparing passing stats. QBR,INT's and TD passes also need to be part of the comparison.
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:32 pm to
Mostly out of self defense and self preservation
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