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re: Who's the 3rd best player in the NBA?
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:38 pm to shel311
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:38 pm to shel311
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The only PG to really succeed recently is Parker.
Rondo was huge for Boston in 2010, and last year when they made their run to the ECF against Miami.
Does anyone remember his play against Cleveland and Orlando in those series? Against LA in the Finals?
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:40 pm to shel311
Would you say Lebron was the 3rdish bet player in the NBA in 2007 when he lead a team of nobodies to the finals? I would. I think that proved you don't need HOF caliber teammates to take a team past the second round. Paul is a talented player. But he needs to win something to be named the "3rd best player in the NBA".
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:41 pm to boXerrumble
quote:I take it you didn't read the rest of that same post you quoted
Rondo was huge for Boston in 2010, and last year when they made their run to the ECF against Miami. Does anyone remember his play against Cleveland and Orlando in those series? Against LA in the Finals?
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:42 pm to dukke v
Go lie about your trailer burning down PEEJ. Leave the NBA talk to the sane people.
Fact is Kobe is past his prime and there are 10 or so players id rather have than him on my team.
Fact is Kobe is past his prime and there are 10 or so players id rather have than him on my team.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:44 pm to Ostrich
quote:Well nobody said Paul was as good as Lebron lol.
I think that proved you don't need HOF caliber teammates to take a team past the second round
quote:No, i certainly would not.
Would you say Lebron was the 3rdish bet player in the NBA in 2007 when he lead a team of nobodies to the finals?
quote:so before 2012 Dirk was better than Lebron? More team success, so...
But he needs to win something to be named the "3rd best player in the NBA".
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:50 pm to shel311
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Well nobody said Paul was as good as Lebron lol.
Your trying to make the argument that Paul is the 3rd best player in the NBA. Lebron is the 1st. That would put them pretty close.
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so before 2012 Dirk was better than Lebron? More team success, so...
Well Dirk did beat Lebron straight up in the Finals, with a less talented team at that...
But I think it's obvious winning a championship gave Lebron validity as one of the NBA's best. It would do the same for Paul.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:53 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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Go lie about your trailer burning down PEEJ
REALLY???????????/ You are a sad person....
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Leave the NBA talk to the sane people.
Ok. NOW I am insane???? Don't EVER let me meet you PUNK.... I WILL show you insane.........
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Fact is Kobe is past his prime
I never said he wasn't............
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and there are 10 or so players id rather have than him on my team.
And YOU would be in the minority............
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:56 pm to Ostrich
quote:No it wouldn't. Why would you assume that the gap between the 1st and 2nd guy is the same as 2nd and 3rd which is the same as 3rd and 4th and so on...
Your trying to make the argument that Paul is the 3rd best player in the NBA. Lebron is the 1st. That would put them pretty close.
You think whoever was 2nd best during MJ's time was pretty close to MJ? No.
quote:ugh boy.
Well Dirk did beat Lebron straight up in the Finals, with a less talented team at that...
quote:For those who think exactly like ESPN and all of those outlets think and write about every day, yea it did.
But I think it's obvious winning a championship gave Lebron validity as one of the NBA's best
For those who know that team success is separate from individual success, they know that Lebron was no better after game 5 of last year's Finals than he was 3 hours before, right before game 5 tipped off. He was the same player before and after that game started.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:00 pm to dukke v
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REALLY???????????/ You are a sad person....
Wait, you get caught in a huge lie where posters were offering to give you money and help out and I'm the sad person? THAT'S RICH
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:03 pm to shel311
This guy is using the same stupid argument that people use for NFL quarterbacks. He probably would rather have Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino because he had more post season success.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:04 pm to shel311
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He was the same player before and after that game started.
You're wrong. After the game, he was an NBA Champion. I'm certain that if you asked Lebron, he would say winning a championship is all that matters. Being a regular season hero amounts to shite.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:05 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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Wait, you get caught in a huge lie
LINK????????/
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where posters were offering to give you money and help out
I had it covered. AND thanked them........
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and I'm the sad person?
YES YOU are... GET your facts straight before ATTACKING ME..............
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:07 pm to Ostrich
quote:saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.
You're wrong.
To think the actual player is better or worse after 1 game is baffling and ridiculous.
quote:So if he stayed in Cleveland and didn't have Bosh or Wade, he would magically be a lesser player? Can we use just a little logic?
he was an NBA Champion
quote:irrelevant to the topic
I'm certain that if you asked Lebron, he would say winning a championship is all that matters.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:07 pm to Epic Cajun
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This guy is using the same stupid argument that people use for NFL quarterbacks. He probably would rather have Trent Dilfer over Dan Marino because he had more post season success.
It's different for NBA and NFL. In the NFL, there are 21 other guys that are on the field. In the NBA, one man can have a much bigger influence on his teams success.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:11 pm to shel311
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To think the actual player is better or worse after 1 game is baffling and ridiculous.
I'm saying it makes him legitimized as one of the best.
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So if he stayed in Cleveland and didn't have Bosh or Wade, he would magically be a lesser player? Can we use just a little logic?
Who knows what would've happened of he stayed in Cleveland. Maybe he would've won a championship anyway, well never know.
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irrelevant to the topic
No it's not. Players only care about championships. Scoring 30 points while your team loses to the grizzlies in the 1st round doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:14 pm to Ostrich
If you didn't already believe LeBron was the best player in the league before last year's finals then you are too sports ignorant to even begin arguing with.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:14 pm to Tiger1242
argument about who's who's but
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:16 pm to Ostrich
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Scoring 30 points while your team loses to the grizzlies in the 1st round doesn't mean anything.
Right, whether you win or lose is irrelevant to how good the individual is.
30 points and 10 assists in a losing series makes you a better player than 18 points and 3 assists in a winning series every single time, no debate, no question.
quote:Is he a better player after than he was before? Which is it?
I'm saying it makes him legitimized as one of the best.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:16 pm to Ford Frenzy
Marc Gasol
Posted on 5/16/13 at 6:18 pm to Ostrich
Dude, as you can see I'm a pretty big Kobe fan. But even I know Lebron is top dog of the association right now.
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