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re: Who plays in BCSNC, 1 loss Notre Dame or 1 loss LSU

Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:19 am to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:19 am to
I still can see UF losing Saturday and Carolina losing to Clemson. That will help ND I really think LSU needs UF to win out though, until Atlanta for them to get a shot. Especially if UO KSU go unbeaten and if they do LSU has no shot.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:20 am
Posted by TK421
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:23 am to
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The only way the SEC champ gets left out is if the SEC champ has more losses than 2 or more teams.


This is probably correct.

A 1 loss SEC champion doesn't go over undefeated KSU , ND, or Oregon.

If there is only one undefeated team(outside the SEC), that team will play the 1-loss SEC champion.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:24 am
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:26 am to
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USC (leads division now)


You sure about that?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:30 am to
Everyone in South has at least loss so yes I'm sure.


The key sentence in the post you're referring to was IF it plays out this way ND CAN have wins over 4 BCS con Champs.

This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:39 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:42 am to
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It should be ND they play a much tougher schedule. But I am 100% sure LSU would get the nod and it probable wouldn't even be close.


would it really be a harder schedule than
Washington
Florida#?
USC #3
Texas A&M #23
Alabama #1
MSU #?
Florida #1
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:44 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:42 am to
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The key sentence in the post you're referring to was IF it plays out this way ND CAN have wins over 4 BCS con Champs.


if that happens they not only will be behind lsu, they'll be behind oklahoma too in the rankings. this is a dumb argument. LSU isnt getting jumped by Notre Dame.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:45 am to
How the hell will they be behind OU? That makes no damn sense?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:45 am to
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How the hell will they be behind OU? That makes no damn sense?


they would have lost to OU
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:47 am to
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How the hell will they be behind OU? That makes no damn sense?


you are right. whenever #8 beats #5 they usually dont pass them up the next week.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:50 am to
If they beat OU and USC they won't fall behind OU. If the loss is like the BC loss in 93(?) the voters will not kill them. If its a loss like to Stanford 2 years ago where it's over 10 then yes.

The loss has to be to Pitt though not Wake.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:52 am
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:50 am to
Well at the end of the year...it's where they end up...your opponent in the computers and ranking...not what they were ranked when you played them. Bama doesn't get credit for beating the #8 team in the nation...unless Michigan crawls back up there.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:51 am to
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If they beat OU and USC they won't fall behind OU.


how about reading the original post in the thread so you can even understand the hypothetical. jesus.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:55 am to
I do understand it, but you don't I'm guessing.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:56 am to
the entire thread is about what happens if they lose to OU.


yet you say
quote:

If they beat OU and USC they won't fall behind OU.


but yes im the one lost. okkkkaaaay. think im done in this kiddie pool.
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:57 am to
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Argument I've been having with a roomate: If Notre Dame loses to #8 Oklahoma and LSU wins out and are sec champs both teams go 11-1 who goes to the title game ?


Neither gets there if Oregon and K State stay undefeated.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:58 am to
No it was about a 1 loss ND and 1 loss LSU not who they lost to. The OP started with OU but it morphed. Because you have to factor in who comes from the East. If UF loses to UGA and FSU they're not as big of a power broker.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 12:00 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:59 am to
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Notre Dame SOS >>>>>> LSU SOS




Really they have played 2 top 10 teams already?


Link?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:06 pm to
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You don't get brownie points for having better rent a wins
exactly. And this is where the people pumping ND's schedule forget. Ok, so they don't play an FCS team. But looking at the top half of each schedule, ND's wins would not be as impressive.

Not only that, but LSU already lost. They are at 6 now and would continue to climb by beating Bama in a week and a half....you're telling me with ND's upcoming loss, they'd STAY in front of LSU?

So if you agree that ND won't stay above LSU, then you're saying that they will JUMP LSU down the road after we win the SEC?
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:10 pm to
its really not worth debating with anyone. its such a slam dunk anyone who disagrees should probably just be written off as slow.
Posted by Sherman Klump
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:12 pm to
Who is this jaredshcei kid?
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