re: Who in the NFL is most important to their team?

Posted by TigerBait1127

Houston

Member since Jun 2005

47336 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:13 am to TheBiggestSpur

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Anyone who isn't saying Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers is out of their damn mind and can't be taken seriously.

well they made the playoffs last year and advanced a round with peyton last year

Posted by Noplacelikehome

Member since Oct 2010

2154 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:20 am to Jcorye1

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are all arguably better than him now, take out the best WR in the game, and it'd be much more.

If you want to play that game...

Matt Schaub - best running game in the league and one of the top 3 wr in the league.
Matt Ryan - Best WR,WR,TE combo in the league and has Turner who was the #3 rusher in the league last year.

I think anyone would take those options over the Lions makeshift RB situation and 1 great WR.

Pretty much every QB except Manning, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers needs an above average running game to really be successful. The Lions are a very young team and their lack of the running game was bound to catch up to them.

Posted by KBeezy

Baton Rouge

Member since Dec 2004

13611 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:23 am to TigerBait1127

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well they made the playoffs last year and advanced a round with peyton last year

Posted by Carson123987

Middle Court at the Rec

Member since Jul 2011

67766 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:59 am to sms151t

brees

Posted by LSUSOBEAST1

Member since Aug 2008

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Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:12 am to sms151t

The answer is Brees or Rodgers. People really don't seem to understand how bad the Saints would be without him. They're passing 75% of the time this season.

Posted by texastiger38

Member since Sep 2007

27370 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:35 am to Lester Earl

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JJ Watt on defense. Texans may be a .500 team without him.

Wow, you really do hate the Texans.

Posted by SpartyGator

Detroit Lions fan

Member since Oct 2011

81215 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 6:18 am to Lester Earl

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Brees/Rodgers

Posted by fearthemoomoo

Plaquemine

Member since Dec 2007

1210 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 6:42 am to sms151t

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Brees not even close

Posted by Jumbeauxlaya

LSU

Member since Jan 2011

18083 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:52 am to Lester Earl

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JJ Watt on defense. Texans may be a .500 team without him.

He's been huge (literally/non-literally) but they would still be an above average team without him..

Posted by Papa Tigah

TIGER ISLAND, LA

Member since Sep 2007

19996 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:53 am to sms151t

Brees and Rodgers

Posted by Jumbeauxlaya

LSU

Member since Jan 2011

18083 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:54 am to JJ27

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What does it have to do with this? We've seen what happens when Brady and Peyton were out for the season. Pats still won 11 games. He's not the most important player in the league.

But Dude, Cassell is pretty good - that's why they did so well!!1111!one

Idiot Pat fans..

Posted by brgfather129

Los Angeles, CA

Member since Jul 2009

17358 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:55 am to xenythx

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Detroit has a top 5 pick without him.

Posted by brgfather129

Los Angeles, CA

Member since Jul 2009

17358 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:09 am to Noplacelikehome

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If you want to play that game...

Matt Schaub - best running game in the league and one of the top 3 wr in the league.
Matt Ryan - Best WR,WR,TE combo in the league and has Turner who was the #3 rusher in the league last year.

I think anyone would take those options over the Lions makeshift RB situation and 1 great WR.

Pretty much every QB except Manning, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers needs an above average running game to really be successful. The Lions are a very young team and their lack of the running game was bound to catch up to them.

...don't waste your time. You are responding to a poster who said the Lions were going to finish with a losing record last year.

Posted by wildtigercat93

Member since Jul 2011

115521 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:12 am to Jumbeauxlaya

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But Dude, Cassell is pretty good - that's why they did so well!!1111!one Idiot Pat fans.. Post Reply • Back to Top

1st off, my point was never to say Brady is the most important player in the league to his team. The Patriots have a better front office that wouldnt let that happen

My 2 main points were this:

1) You cant use Tom Bradys injured season and Peyton Mannings injured season to say why Peyton Manning is the most inportant to his team now. That was a different year, with a different team. How does how the Colts do without Manning have to do with how the Broncos would do without Manning? It makes no sense

2) The entire 2008 Patriots team and the 2011 Colts team are not comparable at all. They played different teams, had different players. You cant compare teams based on who they didnt have because you have no clue how the teams would have done with those players and dont act like you do. Its a ridculous argument that this board loves, when its not feasable at all.

Posted by Lester Earl

3rd Ward

Member since Nov 2003

287787 posts

Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:55 am to Jumbeauxlaya

Lol no they wouldn't. Before Joseph made that play yesterday he was the only player making plays on D.

How the frick does that make me a texans hater? He's having one of the best seasons in recent memory of any DL. Sacks, knocking down passes, INTs, playing the run. What the frick are you watching? He changes the game nearly every snap