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re: Which schools surprise you having low recuriting rankings

Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:15 am to
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35302 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:15 am to
Stanford is the most surprising both because they're coming off 3 straight BCS games and because their class last year was so good.

They didn't have many open spots, so the small class is understandable, but they also didn't bring in as many highly rated guys as they did last year when they had 3 5-star recruits.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:26 am to
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Stanford took a really small class. They are loaded with upperclassmen.

They will be back up there next year.


Spoke with a coworker who follows them closely and he said the same thing. Only a dozen or so scholarships, however the past few strong recruiting classes are maturing.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25880 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:35 am to
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The entire ACC minus Clemson/VT


Wat?
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:37 am to
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is this the first time ever Vandy has out-recruited Tenn?



I never thought I'd see Vandy ahead of Tennessee and Nebraska
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:38 am to
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Richard Sherman and Toby Gerhart = low level talent?



1. They didn't come in as stud recruits.
2. Those guys weren't the whole team.
3. Sherman wasn't exactly all-anything at Stanford.
4. frick off.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36099 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:55 am to
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Mizzou is still recruiting like they're in the Big XII. They're 20 spots behind fricking Kentucky.


I think Missouri needs to rapidly readjust their recruiting philosophy. They used to rely on good evaluation and a moderate presence (playing several games a year against teams from Texas/Oklahoma) in Texas to pick up the Texas kids others overlooked. That is really no longer an option for them after leaving the Big 12.

They seem to have targeted Georgia as their "replacement Texas" but I'm really not sure that's going to work out for them. They are competing against a boatload of other schools with closer proximity and bigger football names. Rather than targeting Georgia I think they should:

1) work very hard to maintain their state presence by playing regular games in STL and KC and
2) seek out a way to raise their presence in other semi-regional recruiting areas like Memphis and Chicago.

Recruiting Georgia is just not going to work out very well for them IMO
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44529 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:57 am to
Stanfurd cuz ESPN told me David Shaw was an awesome top 10 recruiter
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:19 am to
Kansas state builds their program very heavily with juco prospects. Kansas has some of the best juco football in the country, so it works for them.
This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 11:20 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:37 am to
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1. They didn't come in as stud recruits.
2. Those guys weren't the whole team.
3. Sherman wasn't exactly all-anything at Stanford.
4. frick off.

Toby Gerhart was/is the all time leader in rusher in the state of California. If thats not a stud recruit I don't know what is. Like I said some guy behind a computer giving out arbitrary rankings isn't what makes you a stud recruit

I bet Jonathan Martin, Coby Fleener, Doug Baldwin, Owen Mercic, Chase Thomas, Chase Beeler, Zach Ertz etc were all stud recruits in the eyes of Harbaugh.
This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:41 am to
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Toby Gerhart was/is the all time leader in rusher in the state of California.


So? Ronney Jenkins ran for like 600 yards in a single game in high school and his arse still wound up at Northern Arizona.

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Like I said some guy behind a computer giving out arbitrary rankings isn't what makes you a stud recruit


He wasn't highly recruited either.

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I bet Jonathan Martin, Coby Fleener, Doug Baldwin, Owen Mercic, Chase Thomas, Chase Beeler, Zach Ertz etc were all studs in the eyes of Harbaugh.


Cool, but that doesn't change the fact that they weren't stud recruits that everyone was after.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:48 am to
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Cool, but that doesn't change the fact that they weren't stud recruits that everyone was after.


Being highly recruited doesn't make you a stud recruit. Being highly talented is what makes you a stud recruit.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 1:28 pm to
Mizzou so much for the SEC bump for them
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:22 pm to
GT has a lot working against it, no big time stud recruit wants 4 years of mandatory calculus and a campus full of asian chicks who aren't hot. they want easy sec schools where they can major in handwriting and take "coloring within the lines 101" as their classes, and walk on a campus full of white sluts who are down with the athletes. sad story but this is the truth these days with recruits.

This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10744 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:45 pm to
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It's a really good school, in the South, in a big town that could attract a lot of recruits. Even though they did lose 7 games, they competed in the ACC championship and handled up on USC in the bowl game.


And they run the triple option. No big time recruit wants to go there because they aren't set up well to project players to the NFL.
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Being highly recruited doesn't make you a stud recruit. Being highly talented is what makes you a stud recruit.



Jesus you're an idiot.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32606 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:56 pm to
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For Texas to be #23 on both Scout and Rivals is truly ridiculous.

You have to consciously recruit against yourself to pull that off.

It blows my mind that Texas hasn't fired Brown. Texas not being in the top 10 every year in recruiting is a total embarrassment.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 3:28 pm to
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Jesus you're an idiot.

So humor me. Which player is the stud recruit?

3* Justin Blackmon (choose Oklahoma State over Tulsa)
or
5* Andre Debose(choose Florida over Florida State, USC, LSU, Georgia and every other top school)
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 3:34 pm to
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So humor me. Which player is the stud recruit?

3* Justin Blackmon (choose Oklahoma State over Tulsa)
or
5* Andre Debose(choose Florida over Florida State, USC, LSU, Georgia and every other top school)


Debose. Debose was more talented and more sought after coming out of high school because he was more talented. Recruiting isn't an exact science you mouthbreather. Some players develop later than others. Others don't have the will to succeed. Others just never materialize because they aren't used.

Doesn't change the fact that those Stanford players weren't highly sought after and thus weren't stud recruits.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7573 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 3:56 pm to
TEXAS. Stick a fork in Mack he's done. Vandy had a better class
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 4:10 pm to
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Debose was more talented and more sought after coming out of high school because he was more talented.




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Doesn't change the fact that those Stanford players weren't highly sought after and thus weren't stud recruits.


Talent makes you a stud recruit not offers
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