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re: What will this years excuse be to put in an undeserving team into CFP?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:22 am to Glorious
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:22 am to Glorious
That is why I like Conference determining the bid then the committee seeding at end. The way Hocutt has screwed this up is just disgusting. With Long you knew the criteria. My issue is how bad Hocutt has screwed this up, nobody really knows what they need to do.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:23 am to sms151t
quote:Thank goodness they lied about this. Championships legitimately don't matter.
When it first was pitched to us we were told championships matter.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:31 am to sms151t
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That is why I like Conference determining the bid then the committee seeding at end.
I like that. Are you saying that if an 8-4 team pulled an upset on a 12-0 team in a CCG, that the conference could select the now 12-1 non-conference champion?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:33 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:Bro y'all were trash
One dominant third quarter, and this is the kind of talk we get.
Clemson didn't have a viable offense. There's zero doubt in my mind that Clemson loses 10 of 10 against Alabama. In what scenario would y'all have scored more than 17 or so points?
And Alabama didn't even play their best QB. Y'all find one yet?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:36 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Then Auburn should have legitimately been able to turn down their trip to Atlanta last year
Championships legitimately don't matter.
I truly believe that
If the extra game doesnt matter, they shouldnt have to play the extra game
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:38 am to lsupride87
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If the extra game doesnt matter, they shouldnt have to play the extra game
And if Bama as the replacement SECCG participant beat Georgia who should get in? Bama or Auburn?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:38 am to lsupride87
I'm ok with that.
I wouldn't mind seeing conference championship games done away with. Add a mandatory P5 game or something.
I wouldn't mind seeing conference championship games done away with. Add a mandatory P5 game or something.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:39 am to Glorious
No because that’s changing the CCG winner rule. But if Conference said we are sending highest ranked team based of X calculation before year started and never wavered then I’m fine with it. Just as long as everyone knows what they need to do
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:40 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Im with you
I'm ok with that.
I wouldn't mind seeing conference championship games done away with
If winning your conference isnt going to auto get you in, they need to end the championship games
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:44 am to sms151t
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nobody really knows what they need to do.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:48 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Winning your division has never been a requirement
You asked why Alabama didn’t deserve to be in I gave you a reason I think they shouldn’t have been in, nothing more, you don’t have to agree.
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Sos is relative.
It is but at least it is objective and something that can be quantified unlike....
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The task is to get the 4 best teams in the country into the playoff.
And who are the 4 best teams? What criteria are we using? If it’s simply the “eye test”. Why did we go away from the old MNC and just Play the bowls and declare a NC? “Best” team is not a proven fact, it’s just opinion. That’s why I think they should use objective criteria like winning your conference and SOS.
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Was two loss Ohio State more deserving, with their blowout loss to a bad team? One loss Clemson, with a loss to 4-8 Syracuse? Are we just not going to punish a team for losing to a shite opponent because they managed to win their conference?
Ah hear we go with “quality of loss”. Here you are simply using resume when convenient.
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You and the rest of the jealous housewives here hate Alabama, that isn’t enough justification to leave them out of the field when they’re one of the best 4 teams in the country
I actually made the same argument back in 2001 when Nebraska made the BCS CG. And for that matter in 2003 with OU. You and the other insecure Gumps are just making this strawman about jealousy.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:51 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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The proof is in the pudding, they’ve gotten it right every year.
I wanted to comment on this separately because it is completely absurd. You can not use the results to justify the selection it’s circular logic. By definition they could never be wrong with this logic
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
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What if one of the P5 conference champions is 8-5 like Wisconsin was a few years ago?
Just say you have to be a conference champ for those first 5 spots but do NOT make it to where P5 get auto bids.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:55 am to ReauxlTide222
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Thank goodness they lied about this. Championships legitimately don't matter.
Says the only team to benefit from this
I Love how every one that says only conference champs should be in is just jealous of Bama but fans are purely objective
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:02 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:You can't force teams to win their division when we have shite conferences/divisions like the Pac 12 and SEC East.
That’s why I think they should use objective criteria like winning your conference and SOS.
If South Carolina beats Georgia last year you think South Carolina would have deserved a spot in the playoff over Alabama?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:05 am to sms151t
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When it first was pitched to us we were told championships matter
They ALWAYS said two teams from the same conference could get in and that they were charged with selecting "the four best teams".
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:07 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Actually they didn’t, that was just last 2 years ESPN and Hocutt pushed that narrative
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:10 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:I'm so objective.
I Love how every one that says only conference champs should be in is just jealous of Bama but fans are purely objective
Hell everyone's beloved BCS rankings agree with me.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:23 am to ReauxlTide222
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You can't force teams to win their division when we have shite conferences/divisions like the Pac 12 and SEC East
Again with the purely subjective opinions. A) These things change B) you still have to win your conference
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If South Carolina beats Georgia last year you think South Carolina would have deserved a spot in the playoff over Alabama?
Would they also beaten Auburn? I would tend to doubt it but if so then the 4 highest ranked conference winners would have been Clemson, OU, Ohio St and USC
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:23 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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it’s just anti Alabama bias
Let's say Texas Tech and Alabama are 11-1 and neither were conference champions, and only one of them can get in.
Do you think anybody's going to go into analytics to figure out which team will go in?
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