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re: What will this years excuse be to put in an undeserving team into CFP?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:28 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:28 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:This doesn't matter.
Would they also beaten Auburn?
The second South Carolina wins the East, you're saying, without question, that they're a better option to make the playoff than Alabama.
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:31 am to lsutigers1992
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Let's say Texas Tech and Alabama are 11-1 and neither were conference champions, and only one of them can get in
We already saw this in 2011. OK St won a blind resume test easily.
Give Arkansas the same resume as Alabama last year do they get in?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:33 am to StealthCalais11
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"The Eye Test"
Yup and OSU losing by 31 to Iowa, how they justified Bama over OSU after conference championship weekend despite the preceding week saying there was little separation between the 2 teams, tons of contradictions articulated by the CFP Committee
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:36 am to lsutigers1992
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Let's say Texas Tech and Alabama are 11-1 and neither were conference champions, and only one of them can get in.
LOL.
We already saw this. Oklahoma State in 2011.
And to top it off, OSU won their conference. It didn't matter. Thus the crux of many arguments here.
The fans of the teams that benefit the most from this bias refuse to acknowledge it, and I don't blame them for that. They are programmed by the media and the results they get when they get second chances to shut out the double standards.
This is why you cannot have a solid debate on this topic at all.
Like Reece Davis said "Give Nick Saban enough chances, and he WILL eventually beat you".
Fans are tired or seeing certain teams get chance after chance. Then, those teams make good on that chance (that no one else gets) and it becomes "see, we were the right ones all along". We will never know if the teams that were removed because of bias would have won. They didn't get the opportunity, and thus the debate rages on.
This is also why CFB is viewed the way it is.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:37 am to ReauxlTide222
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The second South Carolina wins the East, you're saying, without question, that they're a better option to make the playoff than Alabama.
What really doesn’t matter is going thru stupid hypotheticals.
But to be clear I would only take teams that win their conference, which I said, I was just pointing out Alabama didn’t even win their division.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:41 am to lsutigers1992
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Let's say Texas Tech and Alabama are 11-1 and neither were conference champions, and only one of them can get in.
Do you think anybody's going to go into analytics to figure out which team will go in?
I think analytics should play some role in the deliberation, for me my assessment would concerning how impressive both teams were on both sides of the ball, how dominant they were throughout the season, how bad the one loss was respectively, whether great dominating players comprised these teams as well, so many variables to consider, would be a good logic game
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:44 am to H-Town Tiger
The hypothetical proves that people's "divisions matter" mantra is stupid.
You think USC had a better claim to be in the final 4 than Alabama did
How can you think that?
You think USC had a better claim to be in the final 4 than Alabama did
How can you think that?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:46 am to ReauxlTide222
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The hypothetical proves that people's "divisions matter" mantra is stupid.
You think USC had a better claim to be in the final 4 than Alabama did
How can you think that?
Didn't SC get DESTROYED by 35 points to a team they outranked, ND? SC #11 vs ND #13
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:47 am to ThePTExperience1969
Yes.
Then got outclassed by OSU.
But yeah, H-Town thinks they should have been in a playoff over Alabama.
Then got outclassed by OSU.
But yeah, H-Town thinks they should have been in a playoff over Alabama.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:49 am to Adam4848
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Top two teams get a bye.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:00 pm to ReauxlTide222
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The hypothetical proves that people's "divisions matter" mantra is stupid.
it proves nothing of the sort How could something that didn’t happen “prove” anything? Do they not teach basic logic on the capstone?
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You think USC had a better claim to be in the final 4 than Alabama did How can you think that?
First off I don’t think that, you are just making that up (strawman gets overused but this is a text book example
) so you can dismiss the actual claim. So..... [b]TO BE CLEAR, AGAIN I THINK THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE TOP 4 CONFERENCE WINNERS[/b],
and to further be clear in the hypothetical 2017 where USCe Beats UGA and wins the SECE and goes no to upset Auburn THEY STILL wouldn’t be on my playoffs since there are still 4 teams that also won conferences and divisions ahead of them.
Even if I was just taking teams that won their division UCSe is no where close to the top 4,
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
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OK St won a blind resume test easily.
Which is subjective given that polling in college football is highly subjective.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:08 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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concerning how impressive both teams were on both sides of the ball, how dominant they were throughout the season
This type of stuff can be measured
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how bad the one loss was respectively
I really don’t get this quality of loss notion. It’s ok as part of an analysis but for to many it becomes the end all be all which is dumb.
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whether great dominating players comprised these teams
This should not be considered at all.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
Am I drunk?
You clearly keep stating that you think Southern Cal should be in over Alabama. God what a shitty playoff you'd come up with
Also, the second USCe won the East you absolutely believe that they should get in over Alabama.
Stop lying.
You clearly keep stating that you think Southern Cal should be in over Alabama. God what a shitty playoff you'd come up with
Also, the second USCe won the East you absolutely believe that they should get in over Alabama.
Stop lying.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
how bad the one loss was respectively
I really don’t get this quality of loss notion. It’s ok as part of an analysis but for to many it becomes the end all be all which is dumb.
I mean when it comes to 2 teams with basically identical resumes, nitpicking to this degree might become necessary to distinguish between and ultimately determine things I mean yeah its probably a dick thing to do but when everything else is basically similar, it might be the only remaining option to utilize that could plausibly make sense
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:23 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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LSU could have 1 loss to Alabama this season and be left out of the SECCG. That could include wins over top 10 auburn and Georgia. Would anyone want them left out of the playoff because they didn’t win their league while the PAC 12 champ gets in with a loss to Utah? It seems people want to hold Alabama to a higher standard to justify their omission. I’m glad that there’s a group of people that have a better understanding of the game making that decision and not jealous fans with Alabama fatigue.
That scenario is completely different than Bama last year. Bama had no good wins last year. If Auburn and UGA are top 10, then damn sure LSU should be in the running.
Let's ask this another way; who was Bama's best win before the playoffs last year?
I've always given credit to Bama for when they get into the big games the perform. They play damn well and Saban has them ready to go. Doesn't always mean I agree with them getting there in the first place
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:27 pm to sms151t
I just wish I had more than one up vote to give.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:28 pm to RollTide1987
We could start slow and require a division title.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:32 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Also, there's a lot to garner from how absolutely shitty a football team can be.
By losing to Iowa by whatever the hell it was, OSU was declaring to the world that they are capable of losing to almost every single P5 team in the country.
That's a pretty bad idea when Alabama hasn't lost by more than 14 to any team since 2007.
shite like that matters to me more than losing 1 game on the road in a rivalry game to a top 5 team.
By losing to Iowa by whatever the hell it was, OSU was declaring to the world that they are capable of losing to almost every single P5 team in the country.
That's a pretty bad idea when Alabama hasn't lost by more than 14 to any team since 2007.
shite like that matters to me more than losing 1 game on the road in a rivalry game to a top 5 team.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:33 pm to AUCE05
quote:Why?
We could start slow and require a division title.
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