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What NFL players were worth 2 1st round picks?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Here's the List since 2000:
Joey Galloway
Keyshawn Johnson
Ricky Williams
Jay Cutler
Khalil Mack
Laremy Tunsil
Jalen Ramsey
Jamal Adams
Joey Galloway
Keyshawn Johnson
Ricky Williams
Jay Cutler
Khalil Mack
Laremy Tunsil
Jalen Ramsey
Jamal Adams
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:09 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack for sure
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:09 pm to Wolfosaurus
now do how long their GMs lasted after that
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:11 pm to Wolfosaurus
None of them were. As great as Mack is, I guarantee you that the Bears wouldn't do that over again if they had a mulligan. Teams absolutely crush their ability to acquire cheap talent by going all in on a single player like that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:11 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Joey Galloway
definitely not him
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:13 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Jay Cutler
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:13 pm to Wolfosaurus
IMO, the only types of players that would be worth 2 first round picks would be proven franchise QBs. Like if a 27-28 year old Brady/Manning demanded a trade. No other player at any position is worth that. No other player can impact a game more by himself than 2 first round picks, especially when you're talking about getting said 1st round picks at a premium rookie price.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:15 pm to Wolfosaurus
Definitely Mack
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:18 pm to Wolfosaurus
Depends on who was available with the picks and who would've been doing the drafting.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:22 pm to Wolfosaurus
When you have to pay a massive contract on top of making the trade it becomes nearly impossible to justify giving up two firsts for anybody other than a franchise QB
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:22 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Ricky Williams
Is the only one who was twice traded for two first rounders?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:24 pm to Wolfosaurus
The two first round picks the Bears gave up for Mack were Josh Jacobs and Damon Arnette. Mack is easily worth that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:31 pm to Mad Dawg 2020
quote:I don't see why?
When you have to pay a massive contract on top of making the trade it becomes nearly impossible to justify giving up two firsts for anybody other than a franchise QB
If the two 1sts aren't nearly good enough to get a massive contract, then I don't see how that team that got the 1sts won the trade if they didn't get very good players?
If even just 1 of the 2 1sts turns out to be elite then you have to pay them the same massive contract.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:46 pm to Wolfosaurus
Not all 1st round picks are created equal. Top 10 has much more value and odds of success than the bottom third of Round 1. Good teams like the Seahawks trading 1st rounders isn't a huge impact, but they are likely picking 20+ bc they make the playoffs almost every year.
If you normalize and it just say that a Rd 1 pick = 16th overall, it's about a 50/50 proposition of success.
If you normalize and it just say that a Rd 1 pick = 16th overall, it's about a 50/50 proposition of success.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:53 pm to Billy Mays
Is this thread about from 2000 on or what?????? Because if it’s from before, then Barry Sanders would have been worth a 1st and 2nd in that year, plus a 1st the year after that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:58 pm to dukke v
quote:
s this thread about from 2000 on or what?????? Because if it’s from before, then Barry Sanders would have been worth a 1st and 2nd in that year, plus a 1st the year after that.
Wow. You really missed the point of the thread.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:18 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack and Ramsey.
Tunsil is a top 5 right tackle, but right tackles aren’t as valuable as left. Plus they had to sign him to a completely new contract.
Generally speaking, if you are trading 2 1st rounders for a player, he is in the top 3-5 at his position, he has at least 2 years left on a deal that is paying him below market value, and you are a playoff team before you add the guy.
Tunsil is a top 5 right tackle, but right tackles aren’t as valuable as left. Plus they had to sign him to a completely new contract.
Generally speaking, if you are trading 2 1st rounders for a player, he is in the top 3-5 at his position, he has at least 2 years left on a deal that is paying him below market value, and you are a playoff team before you add the guy.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:20 pm to VADawg
Picks are a crapshoot
The raiders turned Khalil Mack into Josh Jacobs and Damon Arnette.
Jacobs is great but I would take Mack over him and a CB (who I think will be a bust)
The raiders turned Khalil Mack into Josh Jacobs and Damon Arnette.
Jacobs is great but I would take Mack over him and a CB (who I think will be a bust)
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
The raiders turned Khalil Mack into Josh Jacobs and Damon Arnette.
Jacobs is great but I would take Mack over him and a CB (who I think will be a bust)
In a vacuum, Mack is better than both of them. But the Raiders are paying those two guys combined less than half of Mack's salary next season. They have cheaper players who still might be good and will be able to upgrade other pieces of their team.
I think Arnette will be solid. I would have much rather seen the Falcons reach for him than reach for AJ Terrell.
I would much, much rather have Jacobs and Arnette at their salaries for the next four years than Mack at his salary.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:40 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
What NFL players were worth 2 1st round picks?
2 1st, a 2nd, and 2 4ths... Julio.
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