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Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:14 am to GeauxWarTigers
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Matt Flynn and Alex Smith should definitely be on the list.
neither should be near the list. Flynn's stock is exactly the same, and Alex Smith's stock probably went up with his play this season
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:16 am to wish i was tebow
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I say Rivers
it's rivers
2011 was an aberration year and most thought he was hurt. 2012 was the same shite all over again
he was SOLIDLY in that 5-8 range of QBs and is falling fast
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
yep, he was considered as good as Rodgers just 2 years ago. They started well this year, and he fell apart in the 4th quarter game after game
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 9:28 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:29 am to GeauxWarTigers
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Matt Flynn and Alex Smith should definitely be on the list.
Totally disagree. Russell Wilson had one of the greatest seasons of all time for a rookie. Kaepernick is playing like Steve Young. I think Flynn and Smith are where they were at the beginning of the year. Smith might even have increased his stock the way he played early in the season.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
for a QB at his age, the massive regression of rivers is pretty crazy
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:41 am to BilJ
for some reason i still have faith in him and now think that his problems are complacency in the offense. here's hoping that a new offense will make him think more and be less confident in his throws/reads
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:43 am to BilJ
Norv certainly didn't help him and it always seemed like SD was letting playmakers walk and bringing in subpar replacements. And I think you can close the book on Ryan Matthews.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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for some reason i still have faith in him and now think that his problems are complacency in the offense. here's hoping that a new offense will make him think more and be less confident in his throws/reads
AJ Smith getting rid of V Jax and Sproles didn't do Rivers any favors.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:46 am to broeho
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He seemed to be the top young pocket passer in the NFL but i'm not sure about that any longer.
In similar fashion to a guy like Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson has the tendency to make QBs look a lot better than they are.
Eventually they'll get exposed though
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:46 am to Rickety Cricket
rivers does look like he's lost a lot of zip on the ball, which isn't shocking considering he throws the ball with his elbow more than his shoulder
but seriously...no QB had as much of a "coaching" role as rivers in the NFL. has any player ever gone off on his coach on the sidelines for a coaching mistake and everyone goes "well that's not a big deal"? it happened like 2-3 times this year at least
but seriously...no QB had as much of a "coaching" role as rivers in the NFL. has any player ever gone off on his coach on the sidelines for a coaching mistake and everyone goes "well that's not a big deal"? it happened like 2-3 times this year at least
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:47 am to saintsfan22
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Drew Brees.
Still led the league in yards and TDs
Accumulating worthless yards in games where you have little chance of winning tends to increase passing statistics.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:02 am to Powerman
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Accumulating worthless yards in games where you have little chance of winning tends to increase passing statistics.
which games were those?
the only game we were really blown out he only put up 200 yards
His 2 400 yard games came against Dallas (a win) and Green Bay (a 1 point loss)
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:19 am to TigerBait1127
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Ponder had a higher QB rating than Stafford this year
Ponder had Adrian Petersen in the backfield and didn't have to deal with a roulette of WR corps the entire season.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:25 am to broeho
Michael Turner
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:31 am to Powerman
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Powerman
what's your beef with the saints?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 12:17 pm to dawgRUSH
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Ponder had Adrian Petersen in the backfield and didn't have to deal with a roulette of WR corps the entire season.
and Ponder is also terrible.
Other QB's have performed well with a roulette of WR's. His #1 receiver is the arguably the best player in the NFL. Hell, Drew Brees threw for 5000 yards in 2008 with a roulette at receiver and threw for 5000 this year while having every single receiver injured. Ponder also doesn't have Calvin Johnson to throw the ball to.
They lost their last 8 games. None of that is on the QB?
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/22/13 at 12:23 pm to broeho
i would have to say Brandon Weeden... you better set the world on fire if you're a 29 year old rookie who benched Colt McCoy...
he didn't, and the Browns still need a QB
he didn't, and the Browns still need a QB
Posted on 1/22/13 at 12:30 pm to Powerman
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Accumulating worthless yards in games where you have little chance of winning tends to increase passing statistics.
He moved the ball and scored more than any QB in the league. Those are pretty important stats.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 12:33 pm to LosLobos111
Pwoerman- jay cutler
Cam newton sucked before his team was completely out of contention. Then he did well with nothing to play for and no pressure
Ill say jimmy graham
Cam newton sucked before his team was completely out of contention. Then he did well with nothing to play for and no pressure
Ill say jimmy graham
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