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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:46 pm to stlslick
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Briles going the way of the sweater vest.
What Briles might have done is on an entirely different level from Tressel IMO
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
If Petersen knew of his violent past and relayed that info to art when he told him about his disciplinary issues, then I just don't see how this ends well for art
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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What Briles might have done is on an entirely different level from Tressel IMO
A lot worse if Briles knew that SU had previously beat his ex-gf and still allowed him at Baylor.
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If Petersen knew of his violent past and relayed that info to art when he told him about his violent past, then I just don't see how this ends well for art
Agree. His violent past may have only included his depression and punching of a window - the "final straw" that caused him to be suspended. If that is the case, he may escape with his job.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:58 pm to McCaigBro69
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Get used to it, we're here to stay and the school and team will rally back from this.
Baylor as a football team has been on a very good run the past few years. To say that Baylor, as an institution, can withstand a media and national backlash like this is heading towards is a bit of a stretch. Christian moral compasses aside, Baylor isn't a tOSU, FSU, PSU etc.
Will be interesting to see how much the media here in Texas pushes this, especially with no one from Austin holding them back.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:00 pm to DFWAggie09
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Baylor as a football team has been on a very good run the past few years. To say that Baylor, as an institution, can withstand a media and national backlash like this is heading towards is a bit of a stretch. Christian moral compasses aside, Baylor isn't a tOSU, FSU, PSU etc.
Will be interesting to see how much the media here in Texas pushes this, especially with no one from Austin holding them back.
Yep. I guess we need to hire that PR firm back.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:07 pm to BeYou
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Yep. I guess we need to hire that PR firm back
His defense attorney might need that PR firm too - apparently he appealed to the jury to "not punish him [with jailtime] for the worst moment in his life." I'm sure that "moment" was top ten for the victim.
Hope this lawyer wasn't a Baylor law grad.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:13 pm to BeYou
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Briles says Petersen didn't tell him about the alleged assault in Boise. Petersen says he told him everything in the "disciplinary record." Assuming they're both telling the truth, did Boise know about the alleged assault of the girlfriend in Boise?
Was the alleged assault on the girlfriend a part of the disciplinary record? The ex girlfriend testified that she didn't tell the police or Boise about the assault. Doesn't mean Boise didn't have any idea that it occurred.
Briles says that Peterson only told him that Sam was depressed and wanted to come home. Peterson says he told Briles everything that had occurred. They cant be both telling the truth.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:15 pm to BeYou
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Briles said he talked to Boise head coach Chris Petersen and was never told of Sam U past violent history at Boise.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:16 pm to Dr RC
Is Briles letting his Coog High days infiltrate the Baptist?
I have not read the DMN lately to see how they are going to roast the Baptist this time.
I have not read the DMN lately to see how they are going to roast the Baptist this time.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:16 pm to BeYou
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BeYou
You by far seem to be the most reasonable Baylor fan I've seen on the subject. All of the others deflect and point at all the other schools where bad things happen. You have to accept responsibility for your school's screw ups. I can't blame other schools when UGA has another player get arrested. It's just irresponsible, and it makes it seem like people are minimizing a horrifying act to someone who didn't deserve it.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:17 pm to Haughton99
Agreed. Considering that Petersen doesn't even work for BSU anymore and has no obligation to stick up for them, or anyone else in this situation, why would he be lying? 
Hell, Petersen was the one that reached out to Briles when he heard Sam U was headed there right?
Hell, Petersen was the one that reached out to Briles when he heard Sam U was headed there right?
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:24 pm to Haughton99
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Briles says that Peterson only told him that Sam was depressed and wanted to come home. Peterson says he told Briles everything that had occurred. They cant be both telling the truth.
Briles says that Peterson only told him that Sam was depressed and wanted to come home.
Petersen says "I thoroughly appraised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding the disciplinary record and dismissal"
The question remains, what was in those disciplinary records that eventually led to the dismissal of Sam U. Those disciplinary records could of been filled with multiple things that got him kicked off the team - while not including previous history of domestic violence.
To me, it seems that it is possible for Petersen to "appraised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding the disciplinary record and dismissal" without mentioning the previous history of domestic violence.
Thoughts? I've tried to take my green and gold glasses off.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:25 pm to DFWAggie09
shite man, its crazy to think Boise would kick the kid off the team and then refuse to support a wavier to play w/o losing a year due to transferring to Baylor if the only thing wrong with him was that he got drunk and was depressed.
That just doesnt make sense.
A kid that good doesnt get booted like that if the only thing wrong was underage drinking. This is especially true when the kid is at a school like Boise.
That just doesnt make sense.
A kid that good doesnt get booted like that if the only thing wrong was underage drinking. This is especially true when the kid is at a school like Boise.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:27 pm to BeYou
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Thoughts? I've tried to take my green and gold glasses off.
I think that's a reasonable explanation for what might have come out of the phone call between Briles and Petersen. Unfortunately, it doesn't explain the apparent negligence in everything that happened after that phone call, and that's going to be the bigger issue for Briles/Baylor IMO.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:27 pm to BeYou
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To me, it seems that it is possible for Petersen to "appraised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding the disciplinary record and dismissal" without mentioning the previous history of domestic violence.
Petersen's statement doesn't tell anyone exactly what transpired - I do think Briles should not have invoked his name this morning unless he was 100% sure Petersen would back his side of the story. Looks like Petersen is trying to walk a line between backing Briles (or at least not flatly contradicting him) and making sure his own reputation (and Boise's, because I'm sure he still holds that school close to him) is left unsullied.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:29 pm to Dr RC
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shite man, its crazy to think Boise would kick the kid off the team and then refuse to support a wavier to play w/o losing a year due to transferring to Baylor if the only thing wrong with him was that he got drunk and was depressed.
Agree. Reports that I have read from Boise was that he would consistently drink and cause problems. The tipping point was when he got drunk and acted violently by threatening a roommate and punching out a window - which ended up requiring medical care.
He was depressed because he has a stuttering problem and has been been teased his whole life. He took some form of medication for the depression - or so his former roommate testified to yesterday.
Guy is a nutcase. Not excusing his behavior but I can see how he would be a pain to a football team and be kicked out because the admin was tired of dealing with his bullshite. At the same time as you said, its crazy to think Boise would kick the kid off the team and then refuse to support a wavier to play w/o losing a year due to transferring to Baylor if the only thing wrong with him was that he got drunk and was depressed.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:30 pm to BeYou
Briles is scum. He's not telling the truth.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:33 pm to DFWAggie09
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Petersen's statement doesn't tell anyone exactly what transpired - I do think Briles should not have invoked his name this morning unless he was 100% sure Petersen would back his side of the story. Looks like Petersen is trying to walk a line between backing Briles (or at least not flatly contradicting him) and making sure his own reputation (and Boise's, because I'm sure he still holds that school close to him) is left unsullied.
Yep. This is exactly what he is trying to do.
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I think that's a reasonable explanation for what might have come out of the phone call between Briles and Petersen. Unfortunately, it doesn't explain the apparent negligence in everything that happened after that phone call, and that's going to be the bigger issue for Briles/Baylor IMO.
WTF where they thinking allowing the accused rapist and victim to be in the same classes and tutoring sessions.
I am of the strong belief no college should have an internal system to investigate sexual assault, and Baylor's ultimate deferral to the criminal justice system to handle the case feels exactly like the right move to make. It doesn't take very long to see the serious problems colleges are getting into by holding their own kangaroo courts where they try and perform the duties of the criminal justice system, where they wrongly punish individuals because they aren't properly trained and don't have the legal authority to legitimately conduct and investigation.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 2:34 pm
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