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Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:32 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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Was wondering where he was at.
He's probably just finishing up blowing CK and once he gets the cum off his chin he'll be right in
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:35 pm to SprintFun
Gotta admit, I like Rockets a lot more now than I used to.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:36 pm to SprintFun
its an interesting thread SP, and I understood why you used Vandy and NW (private schools and lower tier within respective conferences) So you make a very good point.
I would agree with those that have said the exclusivity and high profile aspects of the NBC contract is what ND used to rationalize their continued independent status.
I bet they are gambling that they return to powerhouse status and that will be enough. I don't thing they can do it and eventually the $$ will force them to join the big 10(12).
If will be interesting to follow the fall out. The big east would move to replace ND ( maybe memphis,depending on what happens with their mens BB program) the PAC 10 would seek to expand ( utah and BYU my guess or MAYBE Colorado. The fallout to affected conference that lose teams would result in a mad dash.
I would agree with those that have said the exclusivity and high profile aspects of the NBC contract is what ND used to rationalize their continued independent status.
I bet they are gambling that they return to powerhouse status and that will be enough. I don't thing they can do it and eventually the $$ will force them to join the big 10(12).
If will be interesting to follow the fall out. The big east would move to replace ND ( maybe memphis,depending on what happens with their mens BB program) the PAC 10 would seek to expand ( utah and BYU my guess or MAYBE Colorado. The fallout to affected conference that lose teams would result in a mad dash.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:38 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:thread doesnt mention ND,, maybe he not seeing any reason to look
If rockets would grace us with his presence
Was wondering where he was at.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:38 pm to OWLFAN86
True. Nor does it mention Ohio State, so no reason to come in and bash.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:39 pm to OWLFAN86
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PAC 10 would seek to expand ( utah and BYU my guess or MAYBE Colorado
They've already said they don't want to because the media markets that are readily avalible (Boise and Salt Lake City) aren't big enough. Kind of sucks because adding two teams would be good for the conference as a whole
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:44 pm to OWLFAN86
I would like to know the Big East vs Big10 basketball TV contract situation is like, because obviously this would be a deciding factor too.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:46 pm to usc6158
quote:yeah,, BUT
They've already said they don't want to because the media markets that are readily avalible (Boise and Salt Lake City) aren't big enough. Kind of sucks because adding two teams would be good for the conference as a whole
if the big 10 expands and ads a conference championship game ,,which would be inevitable. I think the PAC 10 would be "forced" to follow
after all when all is said and done its about $$$$
no one can predict what will happen and when,, but you can predict $$$ will be THE factor in what happens and when.
And that why I included Colorado as a maybe( Denver)
then the Big 12 would grab TCU
as for who the PAC -10 12 would grab,, I didn't include Boise because small media and BYU /Utah are obvious and I bet the State Gov would demand the BOTH go.
This post was edited on 6/29/09 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:47 pm to OWLFAN86
Big East doesn't have a conference championship game for football don't forget either.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:47 pm to SprintFun
quote:basketball is a mere % compared to College football
I would like to know the Big East vs Big10 basketball TV contract situation is like, because obviously this would be a deciding factor too.
the men's BB $$$ is all march madness
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:05 pm to SprintFun
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Big East doesn't have a conference championship game for football don't forget either.
I don't know if there are enough good teams left for the Big East to get to 12 if ND goes to the Big10
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:07 pm to The Easter Bunny
Cincy wasn't good when they took them. USF wasn't good when they took them. UConn was 1-AA...
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:09 pm to SprintFun
quote:truthfully IMO big east is a non factor in college football,
Big East doesn't have a conference championship game for football don't forget either.
SEC, BIG 12,PAC 10,BIG 10, even ACC are better top to bottom,, but regardless if ND makes the move to the big 10 and the PAC 10 expands and add conference championship games,, the bug would follow
Again after all is said and done its about the $$$$$$
the conference championships games MIGHT put the wrong team in the BCS bowl,,but they make $$ and don't change the $$$ made from the BSC bowl
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:13 pm to Sophandros
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Cincy wasn't good when they took them. USF wasn't good when they took them. UConn was 1-AA..
Exactly, and they STILL need 4 more teams
Who's even in that region? Maybe East Carolina, Memphis, Marshall? Still need someone else. Makes more sense for BC to switch back to the Big East and for the ACC to take South Florida. The ACC is way too long right now. Would make more sense for the conferences to realign, IMO
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:14 pm to OWLFAN86
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SEC, BIG 12,PAC 10,BIG 10, even ACC are better top to bottom,
The ACC skullfricks the Big East top to bottom
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:15 pm to The Easter Bunny
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The ACC is way too long right now.
Whoever came up with the "coastal" and "inland" division idea instead of north and south has hopefully been murdered by now.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:17 pm to SprintFun
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Whoever came up with the "coastal" and "inland" division idea instead of north and south has hopefully been murdered by now.
Agreed. Plus one of the reasons no one was at the ACC title game was why would people from BC and VT want to drive to fricking northern Florida? At least if the game was in Charlotte people could have traveled.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:25 pm to OWLFAN86
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truthfully IMO big east is a non factor in college football,
That conference is hurting right now to be sure. Once DickRod left WVU and Petrino left Louisville it all fell apart...and I don't see it getting better TBH.
Posted on 6/29/09 at 1:43 pm to SprintFun
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That conference is hurting right now to be sure. Once DickRod left WVU and Petrino left Louisville it all fell apart...and I don't see it getting better TBH.
right,, which gets us to another topic a WAYYYY off the OP thread
I think we all agree the SEC,BIG12,Pac 10(12),Big 10,11(12) and ACC would be legit IF and after expansion comparable to what Ive mentioned previously.
the big east?? not so much. Meanwhile some decent programs out WEST will need somewhere to go
TCU, BOISE St. UTAH, BYU,Fresno St. ( any of those not gobbled up by expansion/realighnment)
you cant have a conference that goes from West Virginia to Fresno,, to build a 6th legit BCS conference
so what to do?
JUST drop the big east and add a extra at large is the easiest,, but improbable when you consider some heavy hitters in the big east.
I think it would be interesting if you had the big 5. Then 2 at large picks that would be required to come from the remaining Big east Mountain West, C-USA,MAC, etc conferences.
say the two top Ranked from those conferences.
Then the remaining at large teams to come from wherever,similar to what it is now.
and of course if all this did happen ( not holding my breath) they would be an additional BCS game ( as has been discussed) prolly the Cotton Bowl played at jerry's new digs.
IF that occurred then there would be room for 10 teams meaning the BIG BCS conferences dont lose any representation.
the conferences will choose to have a conference championship game because of the $$$. and if a top 4 ranked team loses in that game,, then there is still room for them in a BCS game.
until the playoffs of course
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