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re: What Caused the Trading Card Market to Bust?

Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:35 am to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:35 am to
Anyone wanna buy my baseball cards, I have 63 Lonnie Smith's
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155515 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 9:47 am to
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Because cards are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Everyone who wants a Griffey RC, has a card by now.

I bought that card on Amazon a couple months ago. Always was my favorite card (and player), but I never traded for it (cuz people wanted too much). I was happy as shite when that card came in...almost like a childhood dream come true.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73847 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:22 am to
when i was like 9-11, I LOVED collecting cards and I didnt really care about how much they were worth

I remember I had a jordan baseball card and some dude wanted to give me $50 for it and I told him to GTFO

But I did love getting the new Becketts and looking up all my cards
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19695 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:29 am to
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His rookie card is usually his 1st card.


This is the issue.

I'd like to buy Evan Longoria's Rookie Card. Great.... here's his 2008 Topps card.



See, even has a nice little logo on it to tell you it's his rookie card. Beckett will identify it as his RC.

The problem?

In 2006, Bowman released his card (in packs just like the other cards), that shows him in a Rays uniform. This is his first "regular issue" card, but not his "Rookie Card."



Just for kicks, there's also a 2007 Bowman Longoria, which came out after his "real" Rookie Card and before his "recognized" rookie card.



Ignorance of the highest order.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:33 am to
So I have to be honest. I have all of the Bo Jackson cards and all this talk has me confused as to which one is considered his rookie card. Can someone post which one it's supposed to be? I know I have it but I want to properly label it.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 10:34 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19695 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:45 am to


1986 Topps Traded "Tiffany" (the super glossy version) is probably the answer.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3259 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:47 am to
Everyone who collected cards are either dead or old so.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20126 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:54 am to
pokemon cards.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 10:55 am to
Yeah I have two of those. I also have a few of the ones where he is in an Auburn uniform as well and one that actually has rookie all stars or something like that. I'm going to pull them all when I get home.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28288 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:04 am to
As a kid I got tired of every set having multiple subsets of chase cards which could only be found in one or two packs per box. The regular cards were worth nothing. Plus I was getting to the point where I got bored with them. I picked up comics for a while, at least I could read those and then later I got into Magic cards which had both the thrill of collecting plus it was a game so the cards had some function other than to look at.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34841 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:15 am to
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I got into Magic cards


Nerd.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28288 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:24 am to
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Nerd.


I will throw this 20 sided die right at your head son!
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73847 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:49 am to
i have a black lotus i keep trying to get rid of but no one wants it. ill prob just throw it away
Posted by LSUFan3434
Iowa, LA
Member since Sep 2006
15964 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 11:55 am to
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a Nolan Ryan rookie card


i have 2

i also have a jordan rookie, as well as....

barry sanders
larry bird/magic johnson
terry bradshaw
lawrence taylor
walter payton
etc.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 12:51 pm to
With the 5,000 different series coming out - now they have all different cards. The regular old card is worthless now - it's all about patches and auto's. Different color patches = more value than a solid patch.

I still will drop some cash on a good player, but nothing like I use to. Back in my heyday I'd spend all day trolling sportscardforum looking for trades.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 1:00 pm
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28288 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 1:12 pm to
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i have a black lotus i keep trying to get rid of but no one wants it. ill prob just throw it away


You probably should. I'll dispose of it properly for you. I'll give it to the poor kids down at the shelter.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13346 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 1:56 pm to
The little casing around that Bo Jackson card, with the grade on it, that's what ruined sports cards. The grading companies weren't standardized or consistent. Me and my friend took the same card to the same grading service at a "Tuff Stuff" show 3 times and each time it was given a different grade. Also took the same card to another grading service at the national card show and it was graded differently twice. Could not trust the grades the cards were given but yet the 10s and pristine cards were valued astronomically. Grading also spoiled people and devalued the basic card with no grade.
The market boomed with inserts and chase cards, so that can't be used as an excuse as to why the market crashed. The overflooding of the market is valid along with the insane increase in price of the packs, boxes and cases. The costs went astronomical in a short time.
Inserts always lost value over time and they were what turned the industry into a seller's market instead of a buyers market. The prices of the inserts started out so high that you'd have to sell them quickly to justify some of the costs it took to get them. Once the value of the insert dropped, you were losing money(on average).
I only collected(still do) the rookie cards but even they have begun to lose value. Anyone that remembers the Kobe, Duncan, McGrady etc Topps Chrome rookies and the huge value they went to quickly and look at the values now, understand. Those cards were insanely high in value. Even the Jordan rookies have dropped significantly. I keep them for my own love and don't really care for the overall value, though if not for pulling from packs, I'd be down a shitload of money. I'm so happy I never paid the value prices for the top rookies I have. The Jordan packs were insanely high though but I got 2 from a a 15 pack buy, so I made out.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 2:40 pm to
So do the older card still hold there value? My dad has every card from 61-64 and i think half of 65 with 4 or 5 copies of many of the cards When i was like 10-12 i orginaized them and books and looked up all their values are they close to that still?
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9531 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 3:34 pm to
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So do the older card still hold there value? My dad has every card from 61-64 and i think half of 65 with 4 or 5 copies of many of the cards When i was like 10-12 i orginaized them and books and looked up all their values are they close to that still?


I would guess that anything before 1987 is still worth some money with those 60s cards worth a lot of money.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34841 posts
Posted on 8/16/12 at 5:46 pm to
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I would guess that anything before 1987 is still worth some money


Not really. I have a Joe Montana and Jerry Rice rookie that have both devalued greatly over the past 5-10 years. The worst part is as low as the Beckett value has gotten you would still be very lucky to even get half of what it's "worth".
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