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re: We are all in agreement that Belichick is going to fail, right?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:41 am to TackySweater
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:41 am to TackySweater
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But this is UNC. That aren’t known for big contracts like this I don’t think.
Well if they want to hang with the big boys and be serious players in football, they kind of need to. Kind of the point of BB's demands, they need more buy in if this has any chance to work and compete with other programs.
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It could hurt them down the line.
I don't really think so. If it fails then they're right back where they are now. At least now they're showing that they have booster support of the football program that wasn't there before. What do they really have to lose?
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
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He's certainly not going to win a national championship but I don't see it being crazy that within 2-3 years they could sniff the playoffs. If I was a UNC fan, that'd be a success.
Great point. Fans would likely be ok with that. I’m sure you have a portion of them now see this and see visions of grandeur and a NE-style dynasty in college football but that is not realistic.
But I don’t think Bill is going to be happy with just being close to making the playoffs.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:47 am to TackySweater
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Like is said, the talking point is that he will have others in place to handle all that. I just can’t see him giving up control on anything, especially if things aren’t going the way he thinks they should be going.
I just don’t see how any HC can avoid being involved without recruiting being negatively impacted. And I think high schoolers being high schoolers will eventually drive him insane.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:56 am to KillerNut9
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I’m mainly surprised any NFL HC, especially one of his caliber, would want to deal with the NIL landscape.
he wont be dealing with it, he will have an entirely separate team to deal with it.
ultimately I think this is what all programs will have in the future.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:58 am to JimTiger72
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UNC just got the Tulane QB
UNC is not Duke
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:02 am to WaterLink
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it's just he'll have a dedicated staff doing the grunt legwork like making visits and daily contacts and stuff like that. But I don't think anyone thinks he won't be involved with talent acquisition in any capacity whatsoever.
But for types like him, at the first sign of adversity, they want to start getting more and more involved and put blame on the ones that are doing that work. I just see it as a recipe for disaster when things start going awry.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:03 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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UNC is not Duke
Thanks
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:04 am to WaterLink
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don't really think so. If it fails then they're right back where they are now. At least now they're showing that they have booster support of the football program that wasn't there before. What do they really have to lose?
Not denying that it’s something to take a shot on for UNC. I’m more taking about from Bills perspective. I just don’t see it going the way he wants/expects in the frame if his past success and experiences.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:07 am to TackySweater
I’m happy for you, or sorry that happened
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:08 am to WaterLink
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Yeah I heard 3 years $30M. If it's 5 years does that mean $50M or is it still $30M?
It’s 5 years $50 million.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:09 am to CBandits82
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he wont be dealing with it, he will have an entirely separate team to deal with it.
How do you see this playing out? He’s 100% not involved?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:12 am to TackySweater
How are we defining success here? I would bet he has UNC on fringe of making the CFP as a lower seed in a few years. I do not think he’ll make it to a CFP title game or whatever. Main thought process is ACC is wide open for taking right now. it is SMU and Clemson for any challengers.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:24 am to TackySweater
Where can I sign up to fail for millions?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:31 am to TackySweater
I guess it all depends on what you think his and UNC goals are. Do I see them winning a National Championship? No. Can I see them competing for a ACC title and a playoff berth? Sure.
In a way, I could see this (even more than A&M and Ole Miss) being the first true test case on a school that just puts out insane money and tries to “buy” a team through the portal by just radically going beyond what others would pay. But, I sorta see Belichick as a guy who wants to prove how smart he is, and not fully committing to that. I actually think that Deion at Colorado is a good comp to what I expect, recruiting wise.
The guy obviously knows football. Whether or not that will translate to coddled 18-23 year olds who lack a “this is my profession” mindset, I don’t know.
In a way, I could see this (even more than A&M and Ole Miss) being the first true test case on a school that just puts out insane money and tries to “buy” a team through the portal by just radically going beyond what others would pay. But, I sorta see Belichick as a guy who wants to prove how smart he is, and not fully committing to that. I actually think that Deion at Colorado is a good comp to what I expect, recruiting wise.
The guy obviously knows football. Whether or not that will translate to coddled 18-23 year olds who lack a “this is my profession” mindset, I don’t know.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:38 am to JimTiger72
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It is the ACC though & they have a fairly easy schedule.
Their toughest road game is probably @ Syracuse.
If Cignetti can make the playoff at IU, so can Bellichick
The subjective part of this post is what constitutes "failure"?
If he goes 11-1 (or even 10-2) next season, wins the ACC, and reaches the CFP is that considered "failure"? I suspect UNC fans wouldn't think so. Just like I doubt Indiana fans consider this year a failure...even if they lose to ND. In the 3 seasons prior to this year Indiana was a (combined) 9-27. There is a lot to NOT like about the new era of CFB, but it has never been easier to turn around a program (at least for one season).
If the standard you are holding him to is his success at New England then yes, he will be a failure.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:39 am to TackySweater
I don't see him having the energy for it. Even Saban lost the energy to deal with cfb. Modern cfb is like having an entire team of Antonio Browns
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:43 am to Dire Wolf
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There is less BS than when everything was under the table,
Well that certainly isn’t true
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:52 am to FairhopeTider
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Well that certainly isn’t true
yeah for entrenched programs like Alabama, tOSU and LSU, the old way was better because the NCAA wasn't ever really going to go after them
UNC football didn't have that benefit, see Marvin Austin. Any upstart program that suddenly pulled in top 5 classes was going to get the NCAA knocking on the door
transfer portal is worse than anything but that is different from NIL. UNC with a 20 mil NIL budget stans to benefit from the portal
Coaches can now hire people to manage the roster and payments. In theory, this will let focus more on football and not 24/7 recruiting
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:58 am to lsusa
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actually think that Deion at Colorado is a good comp to what I expect, recruiting wise.
I don’t think there’s a comparison out there that could be more polar opposite. Deion is flash and Bill is not that at all.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:59 am to Alt26
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he goes 11-1 (or even 10-2) next season, wins the ACC, and reaches the CFP is that considered "failure"?
I would not call that a failure at all.
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