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re: Was the Oregon hit on the Nicholls State qb dirty?

Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Quentin Compson
Member since Jun 2013
3117 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:27 pm to
Wow, shame on anyone who doesn't believe that was a dirty hit. Why should the fact that Oregon is a "cool" school cloud your judgement?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75863 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:31 pm to
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The worst part is the fans booing the ref. terrible.



The player laughing about intentionally head hunting a 1AA player after being ejected might have been the worst part.
Posted by Them
Metry
Member since Nov 2008
11325 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:40 pm to
Oregon fans booing
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:09 pm to
Look at this at the 17 sec mark. His shoulder hit his head. In any case, head to head or shoulder to head he should be ejected, per the new rules. Of course, Aliotti disagrees.

As for the fans booing...any fanbase is going boo this when it happens to their team. Dude was going for a first down as a runner.

Personally, I hope they do nothing different next time. The secondary is deep enough that we can afford an ejection and I'd rather stop first downs than hold up and have a qb juke you or worse lower a shoulder and plow my guy.
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 5:11 pm
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Defenders are required to treat a sliding runner as they would a runner who is down by contact. A defender must pull up when a runner begins a feet-first slide. This does not mean that all contact by a defender is illegal. If a defender has already committed himself, and the contact is unavoidable, it is not a foul unless the defender commits some other act, such as helmet-to-helmet contact or by driving his forearm or shoulder into the head or neck are of the runner.


You do know that is an NFL rule and there is no "simple down touch" in the NCAA.....
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:21 pm to
Downvote me!



Posted by Trojans56
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
979 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:21 pm to
Absolutely.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5272 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:22 pm to
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He hit him with his shoulder
But his helmet hit him first
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:22 pm to
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He hit him with his shoulder. 90% of DBs tackle low with their head like that.



That's about as helmet to helmet as it gets.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:24 pm to
I wish someone that has the ability to freeze frame it and post a picture of the head to head. I see their heads side by side with his shoulder in his head.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:36 pm to
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bisonduck

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:37 pm to
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I wish someone that has the ability to freeze frame it and post a picture of the head to head. I see their heads side by side with his shoulder in his head.



Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68765 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:49 pm to
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I wish someone that has the ability to freeze frame it and post a picture of the head to head. I see their heads side by side with his shoulder in his head.


quote:

bisonduck


Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 5:53 pm to
Hardy Har.
Posted by Antiheroaz
may the odds be ever in your favor.
Member since Dec 2009
19927 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 6:52 pm to
I do know it is an NFL rule but a sliding QB is a sliding QB no matter the level. Pop Warner, high school college or pros. He wasnt head first diving for more yards. He wasnt up right getting to the first down marker.mhe was mid-fricking-slide making himself a defenseless player.
What is so hard to understand about that concept? ANY unnecessary contact on a defenseless player is unnecessary roughness, and under the new rule targeting a defenseless player.

ThugPOS

Duck fan - shoulder to helmet = helmet to helmet or forearm to helmet. Any hit to the head is going to get rung up
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 6:55 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 6:55 pm to
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I wish someone that has the ability to freeze frame it and post a picture of the head to head. I see their heads side by side with his shoulder in his head.



you can't be serious
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 6:57 pm to
Ironic from a Zona fan.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115573 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 6:59 pm to
That hit is dirty as frick

Regardless of his head getting thrown, the QB was sliding. Easy call and the right one
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13422 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 6:59 pm to
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you can't be serious


After watching the game I thought he got him with the shoulder. He said he got him with the shoulder. I can't really tell on this clip. Angles are bad in some and Brian Jackson #12 is the way on the other.

I knew he was a goner from the moment it happened though. Shoulder to head or head to head, it's all the same in the new rule.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 7:01 pm to
Your intentions are irrelevant I don't have a lot of sympathy for players and the new rule. You know the rule, so avoid questionable hits and you're fine. Most of these guys are top notch athletes, and as such, should be able to make a simple adjustment when a player becomes defenseless. Hit with your head up and you'll be fine.
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