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re: Vikings assistant fired after refusing vaccine
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm to JetsetNuggs
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm to JetsetNuggs
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This situation in the NFL is about to get messy
Not really. It’s pretty straightforward
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm to lsupride87
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He wasn’t forced to get vaccinated
He is still an unavaxxed person
Playing word semantics is pretty pathetic. He should not be required to do something for his job that other employee classes are exempt from. Especially when players are more likely to spread it than coaches.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:31 pm to lsupride87
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And? When you fire someone because they can’t run as fast, or coach as good, that’s discrimination too
Well that is a ridiculous comparison but yes, it is discrimination too.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:31 pm to Geauxgurt
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He should not be required to do something for his job that other employee classes are exempt from.
Again nearly every company in America has different expectations and requirements for different levels of the organization
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:32 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Assistant coaches don't get contracts like that. They get paid well, but unless you're a superstar assistant or seen as a potential head coach you don't get guaranteed contracts as assistant coaches.
In the NFL they do get guarantees. Go read how you can not hire a guy away for the same job. To move to another team it must be a promotion. The only time they do not get their guarantee is when they "resign"
He wont get his due to cause most likely.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:32 pm to notsince98
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Well that is a ridiculous comparison but yes, it is discrimination too.
So we should ban cutting players for performance? That’s what you’re going with?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:32 pm to sms151t
Lol take a breath my child
I doubt there was a “mandatory compliance with an experimental drug treatment” clause or amendment in his NFL coaching contract
The Play stupid games cliche is garbage on its own, and not even remotely applicable here
The team would pay him out just to shut him up and go home. If they didn’t pay him, that lawsuit would be fun to watch
I doubt there was a “mandatory compliance with an experimental drug treatment” clause or amendment in his NFL coaching contract
The Play stupid games cliche is garbage on its own, and not even remotely applicable here
The team would pay him out just to shut him up and go home. If they didn’t pay him, that lawsuit would be fun to watch
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:33 pm to Allthatfades
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Vikings assistant fired after refusing vaccine
How is this legal and not causing Class Action lawsuits?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:34 pm to wildtigercat93
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Again nearly every company in America has different expectations and requirements for different levels of the organization
And those are based on the ability to do a job. A vaccinated status has no bearing on one's ability to coach.
Try denying a qualified person from a job because you don't have a handicap accessible entrance for them and you dont want to build one and see what happens.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:34 pm to Eat Your Crow
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let's not blame the people actually bringing the mask mandates back
The mask mandates are back because of the unvaccinated people and their positive numbers spiking. I agree that it should be everyone on their own and nothing should be shut down but that's simply not going to happen. Our New Orleans office is down 5 people right now, all unvaccinated
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:34 pm to bstew3006
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How is this legal and not causing Class Action lawsuits?
He has a signed contract and must follow the policies and procedures of his employer. That is how.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:35 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Not sure you know how labor contracts work
Whatever the language in the contract he agreed to is the “guarantee”
Whatever the language in the contract he agreed to is the “guarantee”
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:35 pm to wildtigercat93
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So we should ban cutting players for performance? That’s what you’re going with?
Can you please point me to my stance since you seem to know and I haven't posted it?
All I did was call it discrimination, which it is.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:36 pm to notsince98
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And those are based on the ability to do a job. A vaccinated status has no bearing on one's ability to coach.
Actually in this case it does, because without a vaccine the NFL does not allow Tier 1 coaches to be on the field or in the building
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Try denying a qualified person from a job because you don't have a handicap accessible entrance for them and you dont want to build one and see what happens.
People with disabilities are a protected class so they have different requirement for business accommodations. I swear none of you stepped foot in a civics class
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:37 pm to supatigah
I am sure there is since there was a directive sent out by the NFL. He chose to play a game of chicken and lost. So he won a stupid prize of unemployment (for now).
Tier 1 and 2 banning
That memo was released in April so he played and lost.
Tier 1 and 2 banning
That memo was released in April so he played and lost.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:39 pm to notsince98
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Can you please point me to my stance since you seem to know and I haven't posted it?
Well I’m following your logic here, because you want to argue that this is discrimination and thus bad, so it seems fair to infer that you think cutting players for performance is also discrimination and bad?
Feel free to clear any of this up because it doesn’t really make sense to me what point you’re trying to make
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:42 pm to sms151t
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He has a signed contract and must follow the policies and procedures of his employer. That is how.
He has a governing employment contract and I am sure he went through corporate training and signed the employee handbook
The league passed a rule, team agreed to rule, changed the handbook and policy and forced them to sign it. The employee refused, and the team terminated him. The nature of the termination is governed by the termination terms of his contract.
You are making it far more simple than it really is
I know a few PI Lawyers working on wrongful dismissal cases over Covid for employees that don’t have governing contracts just at will. This stuff is messy as hell and hasn’t even begun to be resolved in the courts. The contract may make it even more messy, not less messy.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Players don’t have to be vaccinated. Coaches are required.
What was the reasoning behind that decision?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:43 pm to ragincajun03
Players have power that employees don’t
The end
The end
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:43 pm to supatigah
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You are making it far more simple than it really is
Notice the crowd in here Poobah
I mean seriously
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