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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297963 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:21 pm to
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You're just proving my point because the guy who drove high STILL didn't hit him


Goddamn you are obtuse.

He would have hit him if he were directly in front of his car, like he was in front of Stewart's. You're creating a fantasy based on your hopeful outcome.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87208 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:21 pm to
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They just saw him.
Stop. You don't fricking know this... cars were passing on the low and high end. We can actually see Ward go down the track... but we cannot see Tony go up or change direction prior to contact.
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By the time he walks into the middle everybody has seen he has lost his mind.
See above.
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because the guy who drove high STILL didn't hit him.
And Tony wouldn't have either if he had kept his arse at the top of the track.
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It isn't some freak accident.
You cannot state this as fact.
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Tony probably
Oh look! You're not stating something as fact. I'm shocked.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:22 pm to
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I already addressed this. He just walked out front. They just saw him.

By the time he walks into the middle everybody has seen he has lost his mind
How are you so sure that tony saw him? Did you watch the longer video that shows where the accident occurred? It's right after a turn. His view could've easily been obscured by the guy in front of him.

Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8011 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Assuming that Tony accelerated right before impact to sling dirt on this dude, I think he would catch a percentage of fault,


Proving my point, another assumption.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6052 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:24 pm to
How much is this going to cost him in a civil suit?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31184 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Stewart didn't see the guy until too late.


That would probably be what I would say too.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9771 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:29 pm to
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How much is this going to cost him in a civil suit?


10 million?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297963 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:29 pm to
quote:


Stewart didn't see the guy until too late.



That would probably be what I would say too.



It's probably exactly what happened based on the video.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68812 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:37 pm to
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10 million?



Maybe at 100% liability, but you have to put a hefty percentage of comparative on the dude that got out of his car and was walking around on a dirt track trying to shoot the bird to a dude in a dirt track car.

TS will most likely pay a decent sum just for the PR like Donte Stallworth did.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69576 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:42 pm to
One second y'all say you can't tell anything from the video and the next you can make the assumption he likely didn't see him based on the video

How does that make sense?

Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11728 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:51 pm to
the first car that passes before tony slowed down rapidly....alerting Tony that something was not right.

I think Tony was a bit aggressive in his attempt to avoid the person(not his fault entirely...they dont train with manakins decorating the track for the purpose of evasive manuvering.)

I think Tony should have reacted sooner but even at a slower speed there would still be no guarantees that he would have avoided him or still not killed him by making contact.

I dont want to sound heartless but the guy was walking around on a dirt track at night time in the middle of a race...

While Tony is no humanitarian by any means...a murderer is a bit of a stretch.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15911 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:55 pm to
Both arguments are assuming a lot on a video's LOS that is perpendicular to the track
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29032 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:56 pm to
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manakins


Posted by bnh
Earth
Member since Feb 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:57 pm to
Hahaha
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9081 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 3:59 pm to
Yea... He gone
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31184 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

It's probably exactly what happened based on the video.


You think Tony Stewart didn't see him?

I gotta throw the bullshite flag on that.. Sorry man
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
I just hope there is an audio of TS & the Pitt crew.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
Tony wasn't dipping vagisil extra. I would suspect he tried to scare him or went into full homicidal rage.

Either way, natural selection is a glorious thing to behold

Tonys not responsible, the dead guy is
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33249 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:10 pm to
I'd be more willing to accept the "he just didn't see him" defense and call it case closed if we weren't talking about one of the best drivers in the world cruising around at highly reduced speeds.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 4:11 pm to
why are his wheels going to the right, right after he hits him.. you think natural to jerk left if anything as everything was to the right of him.

you can see the car to the right crashed against the wall (you are the one that bumped him) you know when you are getting back to that area to be more alert. the area is limited to the right. i understand anything can happen after you hit something. just seems like with a crashed car on the road there should be some sort of more caution going on and if anything you would pull more left than any right.

with that said tony will be fine as the guy should have not been walking on the course like that. it sucks for everybody.
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