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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports

Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:04 am to
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If anyone is a victim, it's the fricking guy who died, not Tony Stewart. Plenty of people don't seem to understand that
I'm pretty sure everyone understands that the man who was killed is the victim. But most people are able to talk and think objectively about an event, even in regards to the victim. You can be critical of the guy's dumb arse decisions and still acknowledge that he was the victim.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:04 am to
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You can clearly see Ward has to move a little out of the way of the 45 car then when out of frame he steps back down and gets closer to Tony's car.
Yeah, not sure what people at the beginning of this thread were seeing in this video
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182591 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:04 am to
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Or he could be walking straight down the track.


Except for the fact that you can clearly see the distance between his car and him increasing. The line of site isn't going to change that.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
18411 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:06 am to
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:06 am to
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Sorry, driving and not taking evasive maneuvers to avoid anyone walking, biking, etc if they're on my road
Oh man. Your argument has devolved into comparing someone standing in the middle of a racetrack to pedestrians in the roadway.

Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:07 am to
It seems to me that more than likely the drivers couldn't see the kid once he got out of his car. He's wearing a mostly black driver suit in a darkened part of the track. The 45 car that goes by first clearly doesn't see him at all until he probably got right up on him. If you've ever rode in a sprint car or on a dirt track first thing is visibility is limited at best.

Tonys car doesn't go any higher than any other of the cars that went by. And from the video we have it doesn't look like Stewart swerves until Wards body gets caught under his tire. Also, it seems to me like Stewarts car looks like it goes faster because the camera guy follows the 45 and then scans back to Ward real quick.

And while I feel terrible that the kid died, he is dead today because he made a poor decision that cost him his life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:07 am to
this is a classic case of perception bias. these people took a side, created a narrative in their head, and even in the face of objective video evidence, are arguing that reality is not reality. i love it; fascinating shite
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:08 am to
I enjoy watching the evolution of an argument.

Distorting reality to fit their perception of the truth.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182591 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:08 am to
I just don't see how with video bing slowed down and broken down frame by frame you can argue it wasn't an accident or Ward's fault.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:09 am to
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and even in the face of objective video evidence, are arguing that reality is not reality. i love it; fascinating shite
Tony was the highest on the track.

No other cars were close to hitting him.

Tony could/should have swerved out of the way.

Acceleration that takes place off the video.

Am I missing anything?
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:09 am to
Hope all the Stewart fans are enjoying defending him though

I 100% guarantee he will never race again
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11072 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:09 am to
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Slowmo speed


Jesus
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182591 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am to
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I 100% guarantee he will never race again



Perma ban bet?
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am to
I bet he races next week
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88027 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am to
Yep. Forget being called a TS fan for being objective about the evidence.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am to
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Hope all the Stewart fans are enjoying defending him though
Not a Stewart fan at all. I've watched one NASCAR race in my entire life. I'm as objective as they come.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11072 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:10 am to
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I 100% guarantee he will never race again


you are a fool if you really believe this
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:11 am to
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I just don't see how with video bing slowed down and broken down frame by frame you can argue it wasn't an accident or Ward's fault.

or simple things like TS being WAY HIGHER than anyone else (when the car before 45 is clearly much, much higher)
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36766 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:11 am to
It has devolved into that because that's what people were comparing it to earlier. Can you not read?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:11 am to
I'm not a Stewart fan. I actually think he's a narcissistic a-hole. I'm just trying to help educate people on how Sprint Car racing is very, very different from stock car racing.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:14 am
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