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re: Utah track athlete Lauren McCluskey shot and killed

Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:27 pm to
He's dead so
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:27 pm to
fricking POS is dead.

Only regret is it wasn't at the hands of one of her family memebers.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5477 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:48 pm to

Steve McNair made the same fatal mistake (just in reverse). His friends tried to warn him too.

Nobody should reasonably expect to be murder-suicided, but whether you're Steve McNair or little Miss Utah track runner, you know when you've veered out of your lane romantically speaking. And that was likely the primary appeal to begin with.

Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Then if your blanket assumption that 99% of sexual assaults are by the same race and there more white victims than black (and when weighted for population still more white victims) doesn’t that suggest there’s still a better statistical chance of being in an domestic violence incident with a white man than a black man?


That is the longest sentence I have ever read. Use periods.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:46 am to
I just watched the 20/20 episode on this case, and it was infuriating. This guy had been paroled 2 times and then sent back to jail for violations, and then paroled a 3rd time before he met Lauren. At one of those parole hearings he admitted that he had raped 2 other women that they didn't know about, and they still paroled him.

She contacted and filed reports with the campus police many, many times and they didn't take it seriously and took hardly any measures to try and protect her. She contacted SLC police multiple times and they directed her back to campus police every time. And then there is the cop who passed around her explicit photos as if they were a nudie mag.

The murderer was on probation and actively committing multiple felonies that they were made aware of-impersonating police, extorsion, and they didn't even try and find him and arrest him, nor did they even contact his parole officer to make her aware of what he was doing. If they had done the bare minimum and made a simple phone call to his parole officer, Lauren would likely still be alive.

And I realize that her parents are victims of this too, they lost a child, but how do you not take proactive measures to try and protect your child if you know all of this is going on? I'm assuming that most people on here wouldn't stand idly by if they knew that their daughter was in another state being harassed and threatened by some 6'3 250 lb rapist who met and seduced their daughter under a false identity.

Her friends were actually the only ones that were actively trying to protect her.

A lot of people failed this woman. Just mind-blowing incompetence and neglect by the state and the police.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:14 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:55 am to
The woman failed herself as well by not recognizing obvious red flags. Amazing someone like that could be so oblivious.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57201 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:02 am to
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The woman failed herself as well by not recognizing obvious red flags. Amazing someone like that could be so oblivious.



This guy was a maniacal manipulator. College aged adults don't always make the best decisions, but she was only with him for a month before realizing what he was. She tried very hard to protect herself when she made the realization. This is not on her.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:06 am to
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this will be a thread


You weren't lying.
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
4960 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:09 am to
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The woman failed herself as well by not recognizing obvious red flags. Amazing someone like that could be so oblivious.


Congrats on MSB shite poster of the year.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:09 am to
I'm only up to page 3 and the hole you keep digging gets deeper and deeper.

quote:

but what if this chick is a raging liberal who just might accuse you of "rape" or assault? Has happened quite a bit.


Ah, so only liberal women accuse men of rape? Nice thinking there troglodyte.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45342 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:10 am to
Well, I didn’t see the 2020 episode, I did see a dateline episode on her. Campus police royally screwed up.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64505 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:13 am to
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This guy was a maniacal manipulator. College aged adults don't always make the best decisions, but she was only with him for a month before realizing what he was. She tried very hard to protect herself when she made the realization. This is not on her.




She really really went out of her orbit to find the guy. Ex-felon over a decade older...? Did she not ask even the most basic questions. She screwed up by having no concerns and not asking more questions. Am I really saying something controversial? Based on her background she should have known better.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:14 am
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:21 am to
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Utah track athlete Lauren McCluskey shot and killed
The woman failed herself as well by not recognizing obvious red flags. Amazing someone like that could be so oblivious.


The institution failed her.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57201 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:22 am to
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She really really went out of her orbit to find the guy.


How is this relevant? Are you saying that we should only associate with people "in our orbit?"

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Ex-felon over a decade older...? Did she not ask even the most basic questions. She screwed up by having no concerns and not asking more questions. Am I really saying something controversial?


I think that you are just having trouble understanding how skilled of a manipulator and liar this guy was. She very clearly did not know that he was 37, or an ex-felon, as she was lied to and manipulated into believing that he was a 28 year old college student. This is pretty simple stuff man. Even if you believe that you are much too smart and aware to get duped by anyone in this world, it happens to a lot of people. Good, well-meaning people. That does not make them any less of a victim.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:24 am to
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paroled a 3rd time


There should be no third time for being paroled. This piece of shite was clearly a menace to society. Should have been put down like a rabid dog a long time ago.

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At one of those parole hearings he admitted that he had raped 2 other women that they didn't know about, and they still paroled him.


Whoever paroled him should have to answer as to why they thought he was worthy of it.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:25 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:28 am to
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Whoever paroled him should have to answer as to why they thought he was worthy of it.



I think that their "excuse" was that a person can not incriminate their self in a parole hearing per the 5th amendment, so it was not admissible, or some bullshite like that.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:29 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92163 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:40 am to
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BluegrassBelle
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Here are the TOTAL numbers, not weighted
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:44 am to
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
4960 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:47 am to
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She really really went out of her orbit to find the guy.


Lmfao. She met him at a bar she went to with a friend. He was a bouncer that was charming. Do you even know the story or are you just talking out of your arse?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178227 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 11:54 am to
Thanks for the 5 year old thread bump
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 11:57 am
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