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re: Update: Oregon & WA to the BIG. Utah, ASU, AZ apply to the Big 12. RIP Pac 12
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:25 pm to OleVaught14
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:25 pm to OleVaught14
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USC is pissed at idea of more west coast teams joining. Wonder if Washington may get invite while Oregon gets left out as a "compromise" with USC
Doubt it
USC wanted nothing to do with the rest of the Pac-12 for a variety of competitive and historical reasons, but the USC admin has no power at all in this case. The rest of the BIG presidents are going to look out for their interests.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:25 pm to AUCE05
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We need to revisit the playoff qualifiers. The new PAC isn't better than the AAC or MW.
Auto qualifiers are the 6 highest ranked conference champs. It doesn't say which conferences or anything like that, just the 6 that are ranked the highest.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:26 pm to usc6158
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USC wanted nothing to do with the rest of the Pac-12 for a variety of competitive and historical reasons, but the USC admin has no power at all in this case. The rest of the BIG presidents are going to look out for their interests.
So... A pissed off USC to the SEC?!
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:29 pm to OleVaught14
I always loved the regional feel of CFB. You had all the B1G schools and some ACC schools with a couple SEC games at 11am, then you rolled into 1-2 big games for those conferences with the SEC and Big 12 in the 2:30 slot, then the biggest 3 games of the day in prime time and then you still had the Pac 12 games starting at 7-10 pm ct
It will still be the same teams, but the conferences are totally new
It will still be the same teams, but the conferences are totally new
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:23 pm to Buckeye Backer
Research spending national champs!
Print those shirts
Print those shirts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:25 pm to Buckeye Backer
Research spending is such an odd metric for a baseline when comparing football athletic leagues.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:25 pm to tigerfan88
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It’s all kind of stupid. The 3 remaining conferences are going to be so big that they’ll have to do internal divisions that basically replicate the original conferences.
It's extremely stupid. The extra teams don't even increase the money for the existing schools. It's expansion for the sake of expansion.
20 teams is so unwieldy that the schools will barely feel like they are in the same conference.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:26 pm to Buckeye Backer
It's a great academic conference for sure. That isn't what is going to matter on a sports message board
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:27 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:That....and/or if the ACC collapses and Notre Dame needs a new conference for all of their other sports, the B1G could tell them they either join the conference for football too or they can't join at all. Then ND's only halfway decent option to remain a football independent would be to join the Big East.
What would be enough is if the B1G instructed its members not to schedule Notre Dame
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:29 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Stanford and Cal
These teams are fricked in the portal/NIL era. Not sure why they are considered valuable. Stanford may be the worst P5 team this year, by a long shot.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:30 pm to TulaneFan
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With the PAC being raped into oblivion and possibly not existing in a couple of weeks, it presents a good opportunity for the Mountain West to corner the market on late night football.
Adding Oregon State/ Wazzu also improves their product. This is a dream scenario for them.
The PAC is at least a valuble name. I would think they would add some MWC teams and keep the Pac 12 name.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
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but to stay in ACC under current situation is hard for us to figure out how we remain competitive unless there is a major change in revenue distribution w/in ACC.
Conference records over the past few years
5-3
4-4
2-6
4-4
3-5
3-5
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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It's extremely stupid. The extra teams don't even increase the money for the existing schools. It's expansion for the sake of expansion.
20 teams is so unwieldy that the schools will barely feel like they are in the same conference
It could allow the B1G to slide into the late night time slot and could actually bring in more money.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:08 pm to teke184
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“All in favor of expelling Rutgers and Maryland? Say aye!”
Everytime someone says "you don't understand the business of college football. You don't know what's going on in the future"
I remind them that the BIG added Rutgers and Maryland, that the ACC signed a shitty TV deal for like 20 years, that the Pac 12 screwed up expansion about 5 other times and turned their noses up at many programs, including BYU, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State and others.
None of these people know what is going on. The majority of conference changes have been bad, or at least neutral, both from the conference and the school perspective.
The shitty TV deal that Florida State is mad about was agreed to by them, in giddy fashion. They thought they had killed a fat hog at the time. But changes come fast.
These 20-team conferences will regret this in short order.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:09 pm to KosmoCramer
Meanwhile in NC.
"I really think Carolina and State ought to be in the same conference," said House Speaker Tim Moore, R-Cleveland. "I really think they ought to do that. And I think you’d have a lot of resistance to seeing them split off in different conferences."
NC politicians are saying UNC and State should be a package deal. Likely the same is the case for UVA/VT ( given how VT got into the ACC in the first place). Dont think that's a good thing for those schools but they've got 10 years at least to figure it out.
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"I really think Carolina and State ought to be in the same conference," said House Speaker Tim Moore, R-Cleveland. "I really think they ought to do that. And I think you’d have a lot of resistance to seeing them split off in different conferences."
NC politicians are saying UNC and State should be a package deal. Likely the same is the case for UVA/VT ( given how VT got into the ACC in the first place). Dont think that's a good thing for those schools but they've got 10 years at least to figure it out.
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:10 pm to jfan244888
Lmao
Good luck with that UNC
Good luck with that UNC
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah the Big whatever is not adding Unc and State. I don't even think the SEC would either unless the lesser State takes a half share.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Everytime someone says "you don't understand the business of college football. You don't know what's going on in the future"
I remind them that the BIG added Rutgers and Maryland
While not good at football, those are two of the most heavily populated areas of the country so that got the B1G footprint to an additional 30 million people. I'm not saying even 35% have cable which includes the B1G network, but adding the network to 5 million homes (1/6 of the total) brings in tons of cash on an annual basis.
Some cord cutting had already began a decade ago, but it's really intensified over the past 5 years or so I would say. So is it worth it through 2200? maybe not but it has probably brought in tons of cash since 2014
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:01 pm to jfan244888
Apparently, the ACC contract called for "look-in's" which allowed the schools to do a sanity check and ask for more money. This never happened and FSU is looking at it for an out.
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