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re: UFC Fight Night 70-something - Louis Smolka vs. Paddy Hooligan - Dublin, Ireland
Posted on 8/11/15 at 9:09 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Posted on 8/11/15 at 9:09 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I've been banned on there a million times and it works fine for me.
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:47 am to Korin
I would be stunned if Rousey vs Cyborg and Jones vs Cormier 2 didn't headline UFC 200. Mortal lock IMO.
I just hope the Cyborg fight isn't at some silly catchweight 145 or there is no point.
I just hope the Cyborg fight isn't at some silly catchweight 145 or there is no point.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:48 am to VerlanderBEAST
It won't be. The first fight at 145 fell through in Strikeforce because Cyborg popped for 'roids so the onus is on her to make 135 now.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:10 am to Korin
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It won't be. The first fight at 145 fell through in Strikeforce because Cyborg popped for 'roids so the onus is on her to make 135 now.
Yep, there is no good reason for Rousey to give Cyborg the benefit of added mass for a fight. It's not like Rousey would pack on 10 pounds of muscle for the fight only to have to drop it afterwards to go back to 135, so it would just be a matter of not cutting, which puts her at a disadvantage.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:43 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Yep, there is no good reason for Rousey to give Cyborg the benefit of added mass for a fight. It's not like Rousey would pack on 10 pounds of muscle for the fight only to have to drop it afterwards to go back to 135, so it would just be a matter of not cutting, which puts her at a disadvantage.
Cyborg can barely make 145, 135 is impossible. The whole point of Cyborg is that she's an actual challenge if she tries to make 135 she'll be worse then freaking Bethe Correia.
Either they fight at 145 or they shouldn't fight at all.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:00 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Cyborg can barely make 145, 135 is impossible. The whole point of Cyborg is that she's an actual challenge if she tries to make 135 she'll be worse then freaking Bethe Correia.
Which is her problem, not Rousey's.
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Either they fight at 145 or they shouldn't fight at all.
Then they probably don't fight.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:02 am to VerlanderBEAST
I think not making 135 is an excuse. Look at her pics from 145 weigh ins, it's not like she's some drawn out skeleton. There would be millions of dollars to be made in that fight for her. Maybe 86 the 'programming' that gives you traps to your ears for 6 months and go become an international superstar.
And she should have to come to Ronda anyways. Ronda is the champ, the star, been more dominant, etc.
And she should have to come to Ronda anyways. Ronda is the champ, the star, been more dominant, etc.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:50 am to Lunchbox48
Cyborg can make 135.
What she can't do is fight w/o being juiced. It's mental w/ her now. She's addicted to the feeling of being superhuman.
What she can't do is fight w/o being juiced. It's mental w/ her now. She's addicted to the feeling of being superhuman.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:34 am to Lunchbox48
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I think not making 135 is an excuse. Look at her pics from 145 weigh ins, it's not like she's some drawn out skeleton. There would be millions of dollars to be made in that fight for her. Maybe 86 the 'programming' that gives you traps to your ears for 6 months and go become an international superstar.
And she should have to come to Ronda anyways. Ronda is the champ, the star, been more dominant, etc
Smaller fighter is supposed to go up, bigger fighter doesn't come down that is the way the fight game works. Rousey vs Cyborg at 135 is a garbage fight. Ronda should give teh fans what she wants and prove she's the P4P #1 she has began at 145
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:00 am to VerlanderBEAST
Whatever it takes, the fight needs to happen. There is too much money at stake. Cyborg needs the fight much more than Ronda though. Ronda already has all the money she will ever need, so she pretty much can dictate the terms.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 8:21 am to ScrapPack
Rousey and the UFC aren't dumb. They know making Cyborg cut 10 extra pounds will drain her. It makes it a much easier fight for Rousey. Frankly, I'm ready for all this Rousey shite to end. I'm sick of seeing 45 yr old soccer mom's posting shite about how awesome she is.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 9:59 am to Shoulderchoke
She is the "Royce Gracie" of women's mma.
She's trained her whole life and faces a plethora of competition that hasn't even had 5% of the mat work rousey has. Of course she is going to win. It's no big secret
She's trained her whole life and faces a plethora of competition that hasn't even had 5% of the mat work rousey has. Of course she is going to win. It's no big secret
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:22 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Smaller fighter is supposed to go up, bigger fighter doesn't come down that is the way the fight game works.
Nonsense. Juicer Mangirl is the one who needs to prove herself.
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Ronda should give teh fans what she wants and prove she's the P4P #1 she has began at 145
This is a stupid statement. It's not a P4P comparison in any way if she's asked to fight someone 20 pounds heavier than her.
ETA - 20 lbs = 15% of 135.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:23 am to ScrapPack
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Cyborg needs the fight much more than Ronda though. Ronda already has all the money she will ever need, so she pretty much can dictate the terms.
Exactly. Ronda is the best. If Mangirl wants to prove she's better, she has to do it on Ronda's terms, not the other way around.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:26 am to lsucoonass
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She is the "Royce Gracie" of women's mma.
She's trained her whole life and faces a plethora of competition that hasn't even had 5% of the mat work rousey has. Of course she is going to win. It's no big secret
And she has beaten girls who have 95% more boxing or kickboxing experience than she has. That's the nature of MMA.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:41 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Let's be honest.... who has she really beaten other than Tate? Women's mma is in the stone age.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:01 pm to Shoulderchoke
Im tired of hearing the excuses about cyborg failing a drug test. That was 5 years ago. Either fight her, or say you dont want to fight her.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:02 pm to diat150
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This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:13 pm to diat150
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Im tired of hearing the excuses about cyborg failing a drug test. That was 5 years ago.
That's the reason they didn't fight back then. The onus is now on Mangirl to make weight if she wants to fight the best.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:18 pm to Shoulderchoke
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Let's be honest.... who has she really beaten other than Tate? Women's mma is in the stone age.
Sara McMann - 2 time world champion wrestler, Olympic silver medalist
Cat Zingano - 9-1, including beating Tate
Bethe Correia - 9-1
If you want to talk about questionable competition, look no further than Mangirl
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