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Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:27 am to SirWinston
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What a night, lads. This is why we love
I couldn’t disagree more. The prelims were good, but the undercard was absolute dog shite.
Ruffy and Llontop was as good as it got for the PPV fights, and I still feel that Ruffy could have ended it sooner.
Nickal fight was boring. Chandler/ Olivera was entirely too much hugging and embracing before/ after each round. They were giving each other props with 5 seconds left on the clock. I felt neither brought their best. Jones is washed. It was the equivalent of seeing Tyson come out at 58 years old. Main card looked like a stunt.
Last night was garbage.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:57 am to lsugerberbaby
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Last night was garbage.
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The prelims were good
So, not garbage then?
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Nickal fight was boring.
You can thank Craig for that. Nickal was obviously trying to stretch his legs and develop his standup, but Craig did his best not to engage.
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Chandler/ Olivera was entirely too much hugging and embracing before/ after each round. They were giving each other props with 5 seconds left on the clock. I felt neither brought their best.
Wow! That's a helluva take for what's surely to be seen as a classic fight. The card was worth it for just that fight alone.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:02 am to shutterspeed
I was kind of in and out of the card up u til the do Bronx fight but seemed like a good card to me.
That was a great battle and then seeing jones continue his legacy of being the Goat was worth the money. IMO this is one of the. Better versions of jones we have seen in a while, maybe since his fights with dc. I hope Dana comes to his senses and makes the poatan fight. That would be the best mma matchup of all time when you are talking credentials.
Jon looked incredible last night.
That was a great battle and then seeing jones continue his legacy of being the Goat was worth the money. IMO this is one of the. Better versions of jones we have seen in a while, maybe since his fights with dc. I hope Dana comes to his senses and makes the poatan fight. That would be the best mma matchup of all time when you are talking credentials.
Jon looked incredible last night.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:39 pm to diat150
One way or the other, the next fight for Aspinall has to be for a unified title. Whether that is Jones x Aspinall for it or Aspinall x whoever for the unified title while Jones abdicates, it's up to Jones I guess.
Im not going to get into the "is he ducking him" debate, but I do feel bad for Aspinall that he'll never get a shot at the goat, despite the goat still being active.
Im not going to get into the "is he ducking him" debate, but I do feel bad for Aspinall that he'll never get a shot at the goat, despite the goat still being active.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:40 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Im not going to get into the "is he ducking him" debate,
well thats because there isnt one. He is. You can debate the reasons why, but not the act itself.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:42 pm to Hester Carries
I don’t think he is ducking him at all. If he has one fight left of course he should want the bigger fight. Poatan has the better resume. He has beaten multiple champs and title challengers across two divisions. The only guy aspinall has beat that bro a title was arlovski who was 15 years past his prime. With what jones has accomplished he should be sble to call his shot for his final bout, and not have to face a guy like aspinall that does nothing for his legacy.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 4:52 pm to Hester Carries
Jones vs. Stipe was the same thing as Paul vs. Tyson.
Tyson and Stipe--they don't have legs anymore. Is it impressive to beat guys who are so old that they don't have legs anymore?
Jones called out the guy who's 5 years older in Stipe, but he won't mention fighting the guy who's 6 years younger in Tom Aspinall.
Alex Pereira is the same age as Jones--37--and he has already hinted a few times at the possibility of fighting Aspinall. Warrior spirit.
Tyson and Stipe--they don't have legs anymore. Is it impressive to beat guys who are so old that they don't have legs anymore?
Jones called out the guy who's 5 years older in Stipe, but he won't mention fighting the guy who's 6 years younger in Tom Aspinall.
Alex Pereira is the same age as Jones--37--and he has already hinted a few times at the possibility of fighting Aspinall. Warrior spirit.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:37 pm to diat150
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With what jones has accomplished he should be sble to call his shot for his final bout, and not have to face a guy like aspinall that does nothing for his legacy.
I can appreciate that. Abdicate the title to Aspinall then, declare yourself retired from championship competition, and ask for a 225 pound catch-weight bout with Poatan.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:41 pm to TigerFanatic99
He said that’s what he wants to do. He doesn’t care about the HW title he wants to fight poatan because he is on his level with accomplishments.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:16 pm to diat150
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He doesn’t care about the HW title he wants to fight poatan because he is on his level with accomplishments.
No one is buying this from Jon. He's going to get tagged as ducking Aspinall. I don't see how he gets around that. When you avoid the interim guy and ask to not only go fight a guy in a lower weight class, but that weight class is 60lbs under your own, that's a bad look.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:06 pm to POTUS2024
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He's going to get tagged as ducking Aspinall.
I’ve given Jones a lot of shite for how he’s handled this but you can’t say someone is ducking when they are stepping in the octogon with Alex. It would be the far bigger fight. Maybe the biggest since Khabib and Conor.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:29 pm to POTUS2024
quote:He said in the presser that he doesn't give a shite. And he'll gladly cash the poatan check while the internet warriors scream duck
He's going to get tagged as ducking Aspinall.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:30 pm to Big Fat Guy
quote:y'all have got to stop with this shite
Jones vs. Stipe was the same thing as Paul vs. Tyson.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:50 pm to castorinho
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Jones vs. Stipe was the same thing as Paul vs. Tyson.
y'all have got to stop with this shite
Please, enlighten us about how it was different.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:58 pm to Big Fat Guy
Oh please. Like you'll listen to anything.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:00 am to castorinho
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Oh please. Like you'll listen to anything.
Can you come up with any differences or not?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:13 am to Big Fat Guy
Tyson 58 Miocic 42
Tyson last professional fight, 19 years ago - Stipe's last professional fight 3.5 years ago
Tyson's last title win, 28 years ago - Stipe's last title win 4 years ago.
Tyson last professional fight, 19 years ago - Stipe's last professional fight 3.5 years ago
Tyson's last title win, 28 years ago - Stipe's last title win 4 years ago.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:52 am to castorinho
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Tyson 58 Miocic 42
Tyson last professional fight, 19 years ago - Stipe's last professional fight 3.5 years ago
Tyson's last title win, 28 years ago - Stipe's last title win 4 years ago.
Those were the differences before the fight took place. And yes, Stipe being much younger and closer to his heyday than Tyson made us all wonder whether he had a real / better chance of beating Jones than Tyson had vs. Paul.
But in practice, the fights played out the exact same way. Two guys who were so old that they could only manage a short burst of speed early on to try and hit Paul/Jones. I could make a video showing multiple instances of this, side-to-side, in both fights. After those early bursts, neither of them stood a chance and they got beat bad--Stipe violently bad. And it was sad to watch.
The fact that these fights happened on consecutive nights made the similarity obvious. Two younger fighters wanting to fight way-too-old GOATs to boost their own resume / legacy. But it wasn't impressive at all. It just makes you wonder--why won't Jake Paul fight real competition? And why doesn't Jones want to fight Tom Aspinall?
Jones actually matches up much better against Aspinall than Pereira does, and yet Pereira is the one hinting at wanting to fight Aspinall. Interesting.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 6:10 am to Big Fat Guy
Poaton vs Bones would be an all time top 3 selling ppv. Prolly #2 only behind Mcgregor vs Khabib.
Just think about it, Pereira going for his 3rd belt (never happened before vs the guy widely considered the best to ever do it.)
The winner could cement themselves as the Goat. The casuals would come crawling out of the woodwork for this fight. If bones wants one last mega payday this dwarfs the potential for money hed make against Tommy.
Lets face it, Dana will ultimately let bones do what he wants. He even alluded to it in his post fight press conference. Now lets say they put a BMF belt on the line (bc there is no rhyme or reason to how they do it) and it only gets that much bigger. Tommy doesnt move the needle. Not yet at least. Im no bones fan but as a UFC fan, its the fight most people wanna watch. The UFC was built on making the biggest best fights that the majority of the fans wanna see. Its teed up for Dana, just make it happen. Make Tom the heavyweight champ and maybe he gets to fight the winner. Maybe he fights the winner of Volkov vs Gane. It doesnt matter what you have to do to get the two in the octogan together, just make it happen.
Just think about it, Pereira going for his 3rd belt (never happened before vs the guy widely considered the best to ever do it.)
The winner could cement themselves as the Goat. The casuals would come crawling out of the woodwork for this fight. If bones wants one last mega payday this dwarfs the potential for money hed make against Tommy.
Lets face it, Dana will ultimately let bones do what he wants. He even alluded to it in his post fight press conference. Now lets say they put a BMF belt on the line (bc there is no rhyme or reason to how they do it) and it only gets that much bigger. Tommy doesnt move the needle. Not yet at least. Im no bones fan but as a UFC fan, its the fight most people wanna watch. The UFC was built on making the biggest best fights that the majority of the fans wanna see. Its teed up for Dana, just make it happen. Make Tom the heavyweight champ and maybe he gets to fight the winner. Maybe he fights the winner of Volkov vs Gane. It doesnt matter what you have to do to get the two in the octogan together, just make it happen.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 6:27 am
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