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re: UFC 196 - Conor McGregor vs. Nate Diaz - (3/5)

Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:06 pm to
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I've seen people on THIS board say she could whip an NFL defensive end because she's "trained"


No you haven't
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:09 pm to
You're wrong.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:56 pm to
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You're wrong.


Feel free to share said claims.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:16 pm to
There were claims made that she could beat Ray Rice in a fight. Running back, not DE
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83056 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:25 pm to
timing beat speed

precision beats power

until it doesn't
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I've seen people on THIS board say she could whip an NFL defensive end because she's "trained"


No you haven't

Yes, I absolutely fricking have. Why the hell did you think I came in this thread and poked fun at that silliness in the first place?

These same people are certain that Manny would whip a defensive end too.

They're fricking mental.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
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They are. I'm willing to bet they walk around within 5 pounds of each other.



Mcgregor has routinely cut to 145 to fight. Diaz has NEVER fought at 145 and has had difficulty even getting to 155. Diaz couldn't hit 145 short of going full anorexia.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

You're wrong.


Feel free to share said claims.

You think we bookmark idiotic threads for months on end just so we can pull them up when some dude on the board says we didn't see them?
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

timing beat speed

precision beats power

until it doesn't


Well, Conor went with a speed/power approach...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Well, Conor went with a speed/power approach...

Honestly, I'm not sure that if Conor got another crack at Diaz, he wouldn't take him.

But, I think that even Conor under estimated the impact of fighting a naturally bigger person and didn't fight as smart a fight as he should have.

Diaz certainly isn't overwhelmingly bigger and a smarter fight probably takes him.
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:44 pm to
I'm the size thing was that big of a deal. Conor mentioned some of his strikes came up short, but it was really just Nate's skill at avoiding the kill shot and his ability to eat shots that have hurt others. Conor had one plan without any alternatives, and his plan wasn't working.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:51 pm to
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There were claims made that she could beat Ray Rice in a fight. Running back, not DE

Even that is comedy.

His chest measurement is about 46"

Watch video of Rousey throwing Tate.

Rousey puts her arms around Tate while controlling her wrist with one hand.

LOL. Rice weighs 80 pounds more. So, that cool hip shift where she pulls Tate with ONE arm over to the side? Yeah. Good luck. Holding on to his wrist with ONE hand? Yeah. Good fricking luck. Oh, and yeah, when she put her arm "around" Rice to start that throw, she'd be lucky if her hand extended much past his fricking spine on the way to trying to get her arm around his side.

He would frickING KILL HER!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:55 pm to
quote:


I'm the size thing was that big of a deal. Conor mentioned some of his strikes came up short, but it was really just Nate's skill at avoiding the kill shot and his ability to eat shots that have hurt others. Conor had one plan without any alternatives, and his plan wasn't working.
Well. That's what I meant really.

He made a plan based on his experience. Unfortunately, he not experience in dealing with a fighter of Nate's size and length.

I agree with you that Conor COULD have overcome the size issue. But, I think for him to do so, he's going to need more experience in actually dealing with fighters who bring more length and bulk to the table.

It probably didn't help that until two weeks ago, McGregor would not have been training at all to deal with extra length of fighting a man 3" taller because Anjos was 5'9".

What "lands" on a guy with less length is a miss on the taller dude.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:04 pm to
Mcgregor was definitely having to reach further out to land on Diaz.

He was going for kill shots to the temple rather than picking him apart and crushing the body and legs. It wasn't the game plan that has been proven to beat Nate before. Even RDA went to decision with him. The Diaz brothers are tough cusses. McGregor believed he could murk him like everybody else did because Nate's been so up and down and he's a functioning retard who appears to have all sorts of brain damage.

I love it for Nate, I love it for underdogs and I love it for anyone that has been marginalized. Life really is stranger than fiction.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Jester
Verlanderbeast has said she would crush NFL linebackers and linemen. Here are some people he said she would beat



Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52002 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Verlanderbeast has said she would crush NFL linebackers and linemen. Here are some people he said she would beat



Dear God. I didn't catch the one about the Raiders tackle.

6'8", 321.
Probably has a 50" chest and wrists pushing 11-12".

Rhonda wouldn't even be able to grab the guy. He'd literally just stand there while she climbed all over him trying to move his arse.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:22 pm to
Dude we posted this gif of James Harrison and he said it didn't matter. She would sue technique and balance. I believe he kept saying the football players would be a "fish out of water"

Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4978 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:26 pm to
Huh
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47134 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 2:29 pm to
wtf?
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