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re: Top 50 College Football Players of the Past 50 Years
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:31 am to Arkansasrazorback
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:31 am to Arkansasrazorback
I am waiting for you to just give me 50 ribs better in the last 50 years.
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:40 am to I am GLORIOUS
Lol Ahman Green had a better Nebraska career than Phillips, he even led the famed 95 title team in rushing.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:58 am to FootballNostradamus
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Idk, because we're evaluating QBs?
and as a QB, both of what made both of these guys great was their ability to run the football.
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but are you actually making the case that Deshaun wasn't a lethal threat running the ball? Did you see him slicing through the vaunted Bama defense that pounded Tebow into oblivion?
what is your infatuation with Watson and 2 games vs Bama? I give him props for playing well but that is poor argument considering how many games each played.
Im not saying he wasn't a lethal threat. But Tebow accounted for 57!!! fricking TD's running the ball. That is as many as Marshall Faulk had, and more than Ladainian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders, Billy Sims, Eric Dickerson, Kevin Faulk and Herschel Walker had running the football, to name a few.
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You really think it's absurd to claim Deshaun is on Tebow's level? I'd love to poll Alabama posters and see who they feared most.
Watson is a notch below. Tebow's body of work is on another level.
Tebow accounted for 145 TDs on his career. Watson 116.
Tebow= Heisman+ a finalist. Watson 2 finalists.
i dont care about 1 game vs alabama.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:45 am to Lester Earl
Spot on Lester......
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:01 am to dukke v
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Spot on Lester......
I rest my case.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
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and as a QB, both of what made both of these guys great was their ability to run the football.
True, but you seem to think rushing TDs is the only way to evaluate them. Deshaun had the highest rushing yardage for a season of the two. He also has similar YPC's. The only reasons his totals are below Tebow's are because Dabo didn't run him as much to keep him fresher.
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what is your infatuation with Watson and 2 games vs Bama? I give him props for playing well but that is poor argument considering how many games each played.
It's not a poor argument to compare how they did against similar schemes and levels of competition. Hell Tebow even played in the spread when it was relatively new and defenses hadn't improved their substitution and schemes. Deshaun played against the spread when it is somewhat commonplace and did even better against it.
Main reason I am talking about Bama as it's indicative of Watson's consistent ability to elevate his play in the toughest games. Have you seen his stats in playoffs, conference championship or national championship games? They're idiotic. He was never stomped like Tebow was.
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Im not saying he wasn't a lethal threat. But Tebow accounted for 57!!! fricking TD's running the ball. That is as many as Marshall Faulk had, and more than Ladainian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders, Billy Sims, Eric Dickerson, Kevin Faulk and Herschel Walker had running the football, to name a few.
Cool, he was a damn FB at the goal line, good for him.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:11 am to dukke v
Youre dumber than I actually thought if you think for one second fournette belongs anywhere near this list.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:49 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Ahman Green
He was really good. He always seemed to fall forward and gain positive yardage.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:52 am to Grandioso
Would y'all argue that George Rogers should be on the list? He did win the Heisman Trophy and rush for 5,204 yards.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:53 am to FootballNostradamus
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ool, he was a damn FB at the goal line, good for him.
So hold that against him?
That's like saying well Watson was better at throwing the ball. Good for him!
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:07 am to Grandioso
He makes a solid argument: 3 years over 1,000 yds, 2 over 1,600 yds, 5.5 YPC, accomplished this for South Carolina of all teams, elevated them as a program as opposed to Elway not elevating Stanford much, won the highest college honor. Talented and productive player.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:20 am to H-Town Tiger
Was also instrumental in winning 2 (nearly 3) straight NCs. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:21 am to Grandioso
They also ranked all the college football teams and it looks like order is being restored in Texas very quickly according to Athlon
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:07 am to I am GLORIOUS
Are LSU fans itt actually arguing fournette should be on the list? 
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:20 am to Lester Earl
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So hold that against him?
That's like saying well Watson was better at throwing the ball. Good for him!
It's nothing like that, and I'm not holding it against him; I'm simply providing context.
Your TD claim makes it sound as if he's the most prolific RB in college football history in addition to being a passer. I'm simply stating that the design of their offense and utilization of him in goal line situations absolutely has something to do with his TD numbers.
How about this, I'll admit Tebow was a better runner if you admit Watson was a better passer? You should also admit Tebow had the better talent around him, and a more experienced head coach yet he had 4 more losses than Deshaun.
And don't even bring up the schedule strength argument. When you look at who Clemson played in the OOC, his bowl opponent and the addition of a playoff game which adds another elite opponent, he absolutely played as many or more elite teams than Tebow did and only had 2 losses to Tebow's 6.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:23 am to Tiguar
maybe 50 better running backs is a stretch (although its probably not too far off), but the fact remains that LF7 belongs nowhere near this list.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:42 am to 632627
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Maybe 50 better running backs is a stretch (although its probably not too far off), but the fact remains that LF7 belongs nowhere near this list.
LSU fans are laughable.
LF7 MIGHT make it on a list of the 50 best SEC players of the last 50 years.
But LF7 making it on a list of the 50 best overall college football players of the last 50 years?
Lolololol
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:01 pm to Tiguar
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Are LSU fans itt actually arguing fournette should be on the list?
Nope, but he clearly is better overall than Lawrence Phillips.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:10 pm to FootballNostradamus
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he absolutely played as many or more elite teams than Tebow did and only had 2 losses to Tebow's 6
No he didn't. Tebow started many more games, its almost impossible for that to be correct. It also gives context to the total number of losses.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:11 pm to I am GLORIOUS
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Was also instrumental in winning 2 (nearly 3) straight NCs. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
How was Phillips instrumental in the Florida game? The game I watched looked Frazier was the instrumental player
Look I get romanticizing a great talent on a NC team, helping NU win their first titles in a long time but his overall body of work does not merit discussion.
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