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re: Tony Dungy
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:37 pm to D011ahbi11
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:37 pm to D011ahbi11
well no shite espn, cnn, or nfl network isnt going to break that news
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Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:37 pm to D011ahbi11
You really think ESPN is going to run the story on Tony Dungy's son being possibly gay?
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:38 pm to Jamohn
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Again. Believing that the government shouldn't sanction gay marriage =/= "hating gays
Lots of people I know don't approve of gay marriage but they leave it at that, they don't belong to and fundraise for a group to ban gay marriage.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:40 pm to NIH
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You really think ESPN is going to run the story on Tony Dungy's son being possibly gay?
I see what you mean, but I've really got no reason to trust the people who have reported it.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:40 pm to hendersonshands
quote:I really don't think it does. And I'm not speaking on my personal beliefs here at all. This is the problem w/ any discourse in this country on any hot-button issue. There is always a rush to extend the other sides positions to an absurd level in order to demonize them.
It means you have a strong dislike for them. Going out of your way to speak against homosexuals and promote a ban on their marriage shows me that he doesn't really like them.
You can be perfectly OK w/ gay people and their right to practice their lifestyle but against government-sanctioned marriage.
--Again, not speaking on my own personal positions. Just from a standpoint of tolerance of the beliefs of others. Just b/c you don't agree w/ a man's religious/political views doesn't mean it's proper to mock such a terrible thing as a child's suicide.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:42 pm to DBG
quote:Do you even understand what my "argument" in this thread is?
hh is pretty much destroying your argument fella
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:42 pm to Jamohn
You can't not want gay people to get married and still claim to respect them. I don't care what the bible said, we clearly set up a form of government that is separate from the church. If you're working your arse off to ensure these people can't get married like the rest of us, you're insinuating that they are below your level.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:45 pm to hendersonshands
Comeon man. You know it's more complicated than that. You can be OK w/ somebody and disagree w/ their lifestyle or a specific thing they do.
quote:I completely agree w/ you here.
I don't care what the bible said, we clearly set up a form of government that is separate from the church.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:45 pm to Jamohn
Tony Dungy wanted to BAN gay-marriage, which isn't even allowed in most states. The guy obviously felt pretty strong about it.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:45 pm to Jamohn
sure, that dungy doesnt hate gay people
and everything posted points to dungy at the very least having a strong dislike for gay people
and everything posted points to dungy at the very least having a strong dislike for gay people
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:46 pm to NIH
quote:Right. He felt pretty strong about banning gay marriage. That's not the same as wanting to deport all gays.
Tony Dungy wanted to BAN gay-marriage, which isn't even allowed in most states. The guy obviously felt pretty strong about it.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:48 pm to Jamohn
eh, its closer to hating gays than not hating gays, imo
This post was edited on 8/22/10 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:48 pm to DBG
quote:Wrong. My only point here is that it's in poor taste to mock Dungy for his son's death and to jump to the conclusion that the kid killed himself b/c he was gay and Dungy hated him. There's no place for that.
sure, that dungy doesnt hate gay people
The whole "dungy doesn't hate gay people" thing is a side conversation and I'm only saying that simply opposing gay marriage doesn't mean you hate gay people. Dungy might hate gay people, he might not. I have no idea.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:49 pm to Jamohn
I disagree with someone's choices if it's something that's dangerous. Who's right is it to say that someone else can't enjoy something because of their sexual orientation? It shows a great lack of respect.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:49 pm to Jamohn
It's not off the wall for the two things to be related.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:51 pm to Jamohn
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Wrong. My only point here is that it's in poor taste to mock Dungy for his son's death and to jump to the conclusion that the kid killed himself b/c he was gay and Dungy hated him. There's no place for that.
well yea, i agree its in poor taste, most people would
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The whole "dungy doesn't hate gay people" thing is a side conversation and I'm only saying that simply opposing gay marriage doesn't mean you hate gay people.
i think theyre closely related
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:51 pm to NIH
quote:It's extremely dickish to jump to that conclusion and use it to make fun of the man b/c you don't agree w/ his political/religious beliefs.
It's not off the wall for the two things to be related.
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:52 pm to NIH
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It's not off the wall for the two things to be related.
exactly
it may be in poor taste to speculate about it, but it isnt some wild, rogue idea
btw, this was NOT my intention for this thread, just saying
This post was edited on 8/22/10 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:56 pm to Jamohn
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Right. He felt pretty strong about banning gay marriage. That's not the same as wanting to deport all gays
Exactly. Most of my family is against gay marriage and there is no hate toward gay people.
ETA: None have exactly raised money to ban it, but they are definitely against it.
This post was edited on 8/22/10 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 8/22/10 at 10:58 pm to D011ahbi11
They probably really do dislike gay people. A lot of people in my family are anti-gay marriage and they don't like homosexuals.
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