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Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:51 am to Golfer
quote:is this a requirement per the rule?
How is standing where your feet were previously, extending your arm and dropping the ball not as close as possible?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:52 am to lsugolf1105
I do but I agree its debateable ... I think my case is stronger than yours because he had a reason to drop it where he did. It waa not an accident. Thats significant to me.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:53 am to bamafan425
quote:
You can guide your ball away from a divot pretty easily.
No shite. But you can't guide it 6 feet back to get your yardage right...
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:54 am to Golfer
You realize what me, lsugolf, and Ford are talking about is not Tigers situation, right?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:56 am to threeputt
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Thats significant to me.
because both shots were in the fairway and it was only about 6 feet, i do not think it was a significant advantage.
bottom line is i don't think tiger should be called out by chamblee and others for being a disgrace to the game by not WD.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:56 am to Golfer
quote:in your opinion, how often do guys just stand in the exact same spot and try to drop the ball perfectly as close as possible? From the watching I've done in person and on TV, nearly every drop is dropped slightly off the original spot. And, the player always picks the direction that benefits him. Whether that is 2 yards or 6 inches should not matter. In some cases, deciding to drop 6 inches to the left could be the difference from hitting a limb or missing it. It's still cheating.
No shite. But you can't guide it 6 feet back to get your yardage right...
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:56 am to threeputt
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In the rule if yoy play from a incorrect spot to gain advantage its a dq. Not a penalty but a dq
This is something else that no one seems to be bringing up in the media. I believe VegasPro brought that up Friday night. Even if you can agree with the committee's use of rule 33-7, which I don't, I thought holing a ball played from an incorrect spot was a DQ regardless of whether or not you gave yourself a penalty on the scorecard.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:56 am to bamafan425
The more I research this the less mad I am at tiger and more mad at the committee 
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:57 am to hashtag
Six inches is the difference in this whole debacle. Six inches could be the difference in hitting the flag stick or not.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:57 am to bamafan425
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You realize what me, lsugolf, and Ford are talking about is not Tigers situation, right?
Yes.
I played in a tournament this weekend where I had to take a drop off the cart path. I marked my nearest point of relief and then took a clublengh back. There was a patch of dirt and a patch of decent grass in that clublength area.
I dropped it over the patch of grass. There is nothing illegal about that.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:58 am to threeputt
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The more I research this the less mad I am at tiger and more mad at the committee
i knew we could do it. Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:58 am to threeputt
quote:they royally screwed it up. all the way around. The part that makes me mad is that they "fudged" the rules to fix their first mistake. So, on one hand golf is the best sport ever and the Masters is the best, integrity, blah blah blah. On the other hand, we can just make crap up to fix a mistake we made.
The more I research this the less mad I am at tiger and more mad at the committee
Where's the integrity in that? Just own up to the fact that you screwed up and either let Tiger get away with it because you gave him the okay, or DQ him. Don't misuse a rule to fix your mistake and then still act high and mighty.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 10:59 am to hashtag
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nearly every drop is dropped slightly off the original spot.
Another thing that most aren't realizing is that most water balls stay in line with the pin. They don't ricochet and cross the hazard margin on a different line like Tiger's did. So, in a lot of cases, it's perfectly legal to go behind your divot and not drop in the divot because they aren't using the option of dropping in the original location, they're using the option of keeping the hole in line with where the ball last crossed the hazard margin.
Also, it's rare for players to not use a drop zone or go closer to the hazard to drop after a water ball. So, this scenario just doesn't happen as often as we're discussing in here.
This post was edited on 4/15/13 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:00 am to Golfer
quote:
I played in a tournament this weekend where I had to take a drop off the cart path. I marked my nearest point of relief and then took a clublengh back. There was a patch of dirt and a patch of decent grass in that clublength area.
I dropped it over the patch of grass. There is nothing illegal about that.
totally different situation. you had an exact measurement - 1 club length. the rule we are referring to does not state an exact length.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:00 am to Golfer
quote:if the patch was nearest you cheated because you tryed to gain an advantage by avoiding the nearest spot
I dropped it over the patch of grass. There is nothing illegal about that.
ETA assuming the patch was exactly on the one club length mark
This post was edited on 4/15/13 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:00 am to medtiger
No its only two shots if you did not gain sigmificant advantage. Whatever that meams. If did, then its a dq.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:01 am to lsugolf1105
quote:
totally different situation. you had an exact measurement - 1 club length. the rule we are referring to does not state an exact length.
He's talking about intentionally dropping the ball in an area to create an advantage.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:01 am to hashtag
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they royally screwed it up. all the way around. The part that makes me mad is that they "fudged" the rules to fix their first mistake. So, on one hand golf is the best sport ever and the Masters is the best, integrity, blah blah blah. On the other hand, we can just make crap up to fix a mistake we made.
Where's the integrity in that? Just own up to the fact that you screwed up and either let Tiger get away with it because you gave him the okay, or DQ him. Don't misuse a rule to fix your mistake and then still act high and mighty.
i can agree with this. although this lee janzen situation has me thinking that the committee did not need rule 33-7 to not DQ him.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 11:01 am to Ford Frenzy
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if the patch was nearest you cheated because you tryed to gain an advantage by avoiding the nearest spot
ETA assuming the patch was exactly on the one club length mark
I think you need to read the rule book before continuing the conversation.
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