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re: "This could never happen in college football"
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:47 am to truthbetold
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:47 am to truthbetold
quote:
Yeah, all those teams that get hot really late like on Decemember 22nd.
Thu, Dec 31 Wis. Green Bay W 72-49
Sat, Jan 2 Wis. Milwaukee W 80-67
Fri, Jan 8 at Wright St. W 77-65
Sun, Jan 10 at Detroit W 64-62
Thu, Jan 14 Cleveland St. W 64-55
Sat, Jan 16 Youngstown St. W 91-61
Thu, Jan 21 at Loyola Chicago W 48-47
Sat, Jan 23 at Ill. Chicago W 84-55
Fri, Jan 29 at Wis. Green Bay W 75-57
Sun, Jan 31 at Wis. Milwaukee W 73-66
Thu, Feb 4 Detroit W 63-58
Sat, Feb 6 Wright St. W 74-62
Mon, Feb 8 Loyola Chicago W 62-47
Thu, Feb 11 at Youngstown St. W 68- 65
Sat, Feb 13 at Cleveland St. W 70-59
Wed, Feb 17 Ill. Chicago W 73-55
Sat, Feb 20 Siena W 70-53
Fri, Feb 26 at Valparaiso W 74-69
Sat, Mar 6 Wis. Milwaukee W 68-59
Tue, Mar 9 Wright St. W 70-45
Thu, Mar 18 UTEP W 77-59
A real Murderer's Row.
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
cinci isn't a mid major...cinci is a BCS team
Yeah, my bad. BTW...they would have beaten TCU or Boise this year.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:51 am to BBATiger
quote:
A real Murderer's Row.
well there is a rivals bias for Wisconsin, so Wisconsin-Mil gets fricked in the rankings. they are more talented than their recruiting rankings
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:52 am to Baloo
quote:I'm sure this is the main thing that bothers most people. They won their conference. No one in the tournament has beaten them, what else are they supposed to do?
Because they don't have a large marketing budget?
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:52 am to BBATiger
Cinci - BSU after about 4 games wouldn't have been pretty...but BSU after 4 weeks off got to rest their undersized D and that coulda been a game
i don't get TCU...they don't often win games against good BCS teams. that 4-2-5 can be exposed
i don't get TCU...they don't often win games against good BCS teams. that 4-2-5 can be exposed
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This isn't illogical at all! This is a great idea!
the winner of an 8-team tournament with 3 game series. by far the best and most logical tournament set up
Especially since Duke is #3 and Butler is #8 in the current polls.
So you want an 8-team tournament, but you think that the #8 team is a bullshite champ.
You just got pwn3d.
quote:No such thing in college basketball.
unworthy champs
This post was edited on 4/4/10 at 10:55 am
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That would be beyond stupid. While I hate the idea of going to 96 games, the idea of an 8-team playoff chosen out of a field of over 330 teams is absurd. It would be downright arbitrary. There's just not enough games to sort through that many teams.
the winner of an 8-team tournament with 3 game series. by far the best and most logical tournament set up
quote:
unworthy champs who get hot late and win an illogical tournament occur. it has before and will happen in the future
But not as often as you think.
Now, when the tourney first went to 64 teams, it was a crazy five years. Tons of upsets, that's where you have your Manning and the Miracles, Villanova's perfect game, and Michigan's wierd run.
But since 1985, it's been fairly chalk. Since 1985 (the year the field expanded), a #1 seed has won the tournament 15 of 25 tournaments. A top 2 seed has won the tournament 19 of 25 tournaments. And a top 3 seed has won 22 of 25 tournaments (and 19 of the last 20).
The only time in the last 20 years a non top 3 seed won the title was Arizona in 1997, who was a 4-seed. We're still talking top 15 teams in the country. Even by your top 8 standard, it's happened 17 of the last 20 tourneys. There has not been a "fluke" champ since 1988. There hasn't really been a marginal upset champ since 1997.
Arguing that the tourney is flawe dand churns out bizarre champs is compeltely false, and not backed up by any facts. Villanova was a long arse time ago.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:55 am to Baloo
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Give me March Madness over the bowl season any day. I love college football more then College basketball, but March Madness is the greatest thing in sports......... IMHO
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:57 am to Baloo
quote:Someone's opinion should always be the most important aspect of choosing a champion.
It would be downright arbitrary
Posted on 4/4/10 at 10:57 am to Baloo
quote:first year of 64-team tourney and LAST GAME WITHOUT SHOT CLOCK
Villanova was a long arse time ago.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:00 am to xiv
quote:
So you want an 8-team tournament, but you think that the #8 team is a bullshite champ.
i don't know if they'd have made the cutoff with their RPI, assumin a similar ranking system
and we don't know what they'd do in 3 games
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:01 am to Rouge
It kills me. People's problem with longshots winning the tourney is essentially propping up Villanova beating Georgetown 25 years ago.
It's just not an argument that can withstand any sort of logical scrutiny. Really, the problem with this year is that Butler was under-seeded. But even if they weren't, a 5-seed winning is a mid-major conference champ ranked top 20 in the country winning the national title. And the foundation crumbled.
It's just not an argument that can withstand any sort of logical scrutiny. Really, the problem with this year is that Butler was under-seeded. But even if they weren't, a 5-seed winning is a mid-major conference champ ranked top 20 in the country winning the national title. And the foundation crumbled.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:02 am to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Someone's opinion should always be the most important aspect of choosing a champion.
the rankings done by non-subjective stanrards don't have butler in the top 10, as best i can tell
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No sir--you're not back-pedaling here.
i don't know if they'd have made the cutoff with their RPI, assumin a similar ranking system
and we don't know what they'd do in 3 games
Butler is ranked #8 by one of the three most respected polling sources. You want an 8-team tournament. But you think that Butler would be a bullshite champ.
Just man up and admit it. You sound stupid right now.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:03 am to Baloo
i don't have the problems of Butler being a Fresno State. in fact last night i said they were a lot better than FSU
but the simple fact that vitale and others are championing "this could never happen in college football" as a negative are misplaced. it is a positive that this could never happen in CFB
no bubble teams who likely aren't in the top 8 can get hot late, run into their 2 hardest teams missing key players, and fluke their way to the top. that is CFB and that should be CELEBRATED
but the simple fact that vitale and others are championing "this could never happen in college football" as a negative are misplaced. it is a positive that this could never happen in CFB
no bubble teams who likely aren't in the top 8 can get hot late, run into their 2 hardest teams missing key players, and fluke their way to the top. that is CFB and that should be CELEBRATED
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Butler was #12 in RPI on Selection Sunday. And then they went on the 2nd most impressive five game sequence in the nation, putting them in the top 2 in the nation.
the rankings done by non-subjective stanrards don't have butler in the top 10, as best i can tell
But you think they would be a bullshite champ.
Please keep posting.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:05 am to xiv
quote:
Butler is ranked #8 by one of the three most respected polling sources.
and the other 2?
quote:
You want an 8-team tournament
with 3 game series
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No sir. You've already lost.
quote:
Butler is ranked #8 by one of the three most respected polling sources.
and the other 2?
I just gave you a source as credible as any that would have qualified Butler for your 8-team tournament.
But you think the #8 team in the country would be a bullshite champ.
Actually, you think the current #2 team in the country would be a bullshite champ.
PLEASE DO NOT STOP POSTING.
Posted on 4/4/10 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro
I think you are inventing something to bitch about here Slowpers
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