re: "This could never happen in college football"

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I just gave you a source as credible as any that would have qualified Butler for your 8-team tournament.

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a source

the RPI would not have had them in. so your point is really not worth much

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But you think the #8 team in the country would be a bullshite champ.

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typically, yes

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Actually, you think the current #2 team in the country would be a bullshite champ.

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and george mason was one of the 4 best teams the year they made the final 4, right?

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It's a math formula. A math formula cannot be proven to be the perfect way to pick a team worthy of playing for the championship. A math formula may weigh one aspect more than another. Who is to say that is the correct way to set up the math formula that decides who should play for a championship?

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then how do you create a title-determining process that takes this into account? have a year-long tournament and let everyone in?

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hence why the BCS uses 6 different formulas

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and opinion polls

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Doesn't matter.

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yes it does, based on the point you're attempting to make, since you're claiming butler is the #2 team this year

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The Final Four is the four regional champions--it makes no mention of how good a team is.

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then why are you claiming butler is the #2 team?

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You do know that "champion" and "best team" are not coterminous, do you not?

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any system that doesn't merge the 2 concepts fails

which is why CBB fails

champion should always be the best team

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This is the worst I've ever seen you.

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as opposed to you picking 1 random poll to show a team is the #8 team in the country, ignoring the 3-game series aspect, and then claiming they're the #2 team (while saying they're not the #2 team later)?

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champion should always be the best team

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Why does the BCS have a title game? Why can't they just crown the #1 team champion?

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any system that doesn't merge the 2 concepts fails

which is why CBB fails

champion should always be the best team

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CFB is about the most deserving team, not the best

If it was about the best team, UF and Bama would have been in the title game last year

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Why does the BCS have a title game?

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because it's not always perfect due to inconsistencies in schedule. slight differentiations

but a 2-team format ensures no unworthy champ, and the slight differences often end up negligible. the differences in #1 and #4 are often pretty wide

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if you don't put the best teams in the process, your process is a failure

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Butler is one of the top 2 teams in the country and they wouldn't have been in your process.

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yes it does, based on the point you're attempting to make, since you're claiming butler is the #2 team this year

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then why are you claiming butler is the #2 team?

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Because they are. They're in the title game. I never said they were the 2nd best team (nor did I say they weren't, fyi). But they're either the #2 or #1 team--this will be officially recognized by the NCAA, so there can be no argument. It is simply fact.

Now that that's out of the way...

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any system that doesn't merge the 2 concepts fails

which is why CBB fails

champion should always be the best team

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You should watch dog shows instead of sports. You would never run into this problem.

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as opposed to you picking 1 random poll to show a team is the #8 team in the country,

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Right, the coaches' poll is a random poll.

Slow, seriously. Seriously, man! I've never seen you this stupid.

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but a 2-team format ensures no unworthy champ

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How so? What if the better team loses and the #2 team wins the championship? You'd have an "unworthy" champion, wouldn't you? Why not just crown the #1 team champion?