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re: The Unofficial Great Great Roland Garros Thread 2021
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:09 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:09 pm to Bunk Moreland
Yeah, I mean it’s part of the condition of entering a grand slam tournament, that’s your job.
Mental health issue or not. If I’m a sales rep, I can’t go to my boss and say ten of my clients make me anxious, swap them out or drop them, but let me have the same pay and benefits as my co-workers.
We lose sight of the fact athletes enter into an agreement just like any other employee. Can they request reasonable accommodation? Sure.
But my point earlier was, why is it okay for Osaka to do an “on court” interview, but it’s too stressful to do a post-match interview? It’s disingenuous and looks like she wants only the easy, good pub.
It’s really disappointing, because she was so likable in the beginning of her career, what happened?
Mental health issue or not. If I’m a sales rep, I can’t go to my boss and say ten of my clients make me anxious, swap them out or drop them, but let me have the same pay and benefits as my co-workers.
We lose sight of the fact athletes enter into an agreement just like any other employee. Can they request reasonable accommodation? Sure.
But my point earlier was, why is it okay for Osaka to do an “on court” interview, but it’s too stressful to do a post-match interview? It’s disingenuous and looks like she wants only the easy, good pub.
It’s really disappointing, because she was so likable in the beginning of her career, what happened?
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:26 pm to hnds2th
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If I’m a sales rep, I can’t go to my boss and say ten of my clients make me anxious, swap them out or drop them, but let me have the same pay and benefits as my co-workers.
Would it change anything if you were arguably the best sales rep on the planet?
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:39 pm to hnds2th
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Yeah, I mean it’s part of the condition of entering a grand slam tournament, that’s your job.
Mental health issue or not. If I’m a sales rep, I can’t go to my boss and say ten of my clients make me anxious, swap them out or drop them, but let me have the same pay and benefits as my co-workers.
It is not part of her job. It's part of the terms and conditions for participating in the tournament. That's a material difference. The key word in your comment that differentiates your situation from hers is "boss"
She is her own boss she is not any other employee. She answers to no one but herself and if she is no longer comfortable with the conditions for participating in the tournament, isn't it the right thing to do to choose to withdraw?
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:40 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Would it change anything if you were arguably the best sales rep on the planet?
And it was your company.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:55 pm to longwayfromLA
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And it was your company.
It's her right to withdraw, I have no problem with it, especially if she has personal stuff going on.
But by this logic, her (or her company) signed a contract as an independent contractor to do a job (play in the FO). After she signed her contract, she decided she didn't want to fulfill all of her contractual obligations. The other party decided to enforce their contractual rights to fine her. She decided to walk away, her right.
I have no problem with any party in this, I've walked away from contracts before for various reasons, of course I'm not a pro tennis player so I get the difference.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:03 pm to NOLALGD
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It's her right to withdraw, I have no problem with it, especially if she has personal stuff going on.
But by this logic, her (or her company) signed a contract as an independent contractor to do a job (play in the FO). After she signed her contract, she decided she didn't want to fulfill all of her contractual obligations. The other party decided to enforce their contractual rights to fine her. She decided to walk away, her right.
I have no problem with any party in this, I've walked away from contracts before for various reasons, of course I'm not a pro tennis player so I get the difference.
I don't disagree with any of this, I was just noting that the analogy that was offered doesn't hold up because there is a big difference between employee and owner-operator.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:08 pm to longwayfromLA
Yes, 100% agree with you.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:10 am to longwayfromLA
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They could have just fined her, but they sent her a threatening letter, so she took them up on their offer.
So brave
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:12 am to longwayfromLA
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It is not part of her job. It's part of the terms and conditions for participating in the tournament.
Playing in tennis tournaments is her job.
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She answers to no one but herself and if she is no longer comfortable with the conditions for participating in the tournament, isn't it the right thing to do to choose to withdraw?
I don't see it, buddy
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:03 am to MidnightVibe
Rublev in trouble
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:22 am to MidnightVibe
Down goes Rublev
Down goes FAA
Down goes FAA
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:23 am to MidnightVibe
One way traffic thus far in the Rafa match.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:24 am to MidnightVibe
Who is FAA????
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:29 am to dukke v
Felix Auger Aliassime
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:32 pm to NolaLovingClemsonFan
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Professional athletes these days are such coddled, entitled pricks. T
This girl is a major attention whore and has been since her first big win. It is easier for her to withdraw for the attention when she has banked some serious cash. Enough to last 100 lifetimes.
I would laugh if Wimbledon told her to kick rocks. Dont want her drama there. If she really has some "depression" issues, they wont go away quick enough to play on grass so hopefully, she is out there
Wouldnt care if she just faded away in the sunset and we never had to watch her entitled arse again
Posted on 6/1/21 at 2:51 pm to LanierSpots
That’s a little much. You don’t know the whole story. Osaka won the US Open at age 20 and became #1 in the world shortly after turning 21. She’s also the biggest sports celebrity in Japan and has been for the better part of the last 3 years. That’s a lot of pressure and almost no time to herself which is something all single, early 20-somethings really need.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 2:55 pm to reggierayreb
quote:She is universally hated by everyone on tour
That’s a little much. You don’t know the whole story. Osaka won the US Open at age 20 and became #1 in the world shortly after turning 21. She’s also the biggest sports celebrity in Japan and has been for the better part of the last 3 years. That’s a lot of pressure and almost no time to herself which is something all single, early 20-somethings really need.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 3:56 pm to reggierayreb
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That’s a little much. You don’t know the whole story. Osaka won the US Open at age 20 and became #1 in the world shortly after turning 21. She’s also the biggest sports celebrity in Japan and has been for the better part of the last 3 years. That’s a lot of pressure and almost no time to herself which is something all single, early 20-somethings really need.
And?
She chose to do all of this. If she’s having some issues she should totally sit until she’s ready. But trying to act like what they are asking is unfair or too much? And using actual mental illness as an excuse?
You don’t have to play. No ones going to force her. But there is a price to the fame and glory.
The whole thing seems a bit much. And for a person who has “social anxiety” it seems very “give me attention”.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:24 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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The whole thing seems a bit much. And for a person who has “social anxiety” it seems very “give me attention
I have had a strong dislike for her since her first open. She seemed like a disinterested gen z punk the entire tournament. I do feel awful that her first match ended like that and it was unfair.
Also, her going to play for Japan always came off as entitled and like she abandoned her country because she didn’t get all the endorsements off the bat. I don’t like the Russian players that live here their whole life and play for Russia either.
THAT being said she can’t do an interview without sounding like she’s annoyed to be there, can’t complete a sentence without a “like,” and while I may not agree with BLM, I am sensitive to people that do agree with it. Her statements last year were pretty ignorant.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 5:28 pm to 3nOut
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THAT being said she can’t do an interview without sounding like she’s annoyed to be there, can’t complete a sentence without a “like,” and while I may not agree with BLM, I am sensitive to people that do agree with it. Her statements last year were pretty ignorant.
I think it's less to do with her being annoyed to do the interviews and more to do with her just not being very bright.
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