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Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:25 pm to deuce985
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Guess that makes Howard an even bigger pussy for transferring huh? Why is this an LSU or BK problem? Sounds like Howard needs to look at himself in the mirror especially since he's not ready to take over a P5 program.
That is just wild speculation. He was on campus a year. He has the physical tools, if you believe the scouting services as well as LSU Coaching staff.
He has a Spring and Fall to learn the offense.
What makes him a P for leaving any different than Daniels. Daniels left when he was the starter.
Howard left to hopefully be the starter or 2nd team, in order to get more Reps.
Its called planning for the future.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:35 pm to LuzianaFootball
I love Hurley's attitude on Twitter as much as anybody. But I PROMISE you if he doesn't see a clear path to starting within a year or two of his arrival in BR, his arse will be gone in a blink. And you can't blame him one bit. These guys have a limited time to play and audition for the ultimate goal, the NFL.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:39 pm to Tiger1988
quote:dang bruh you hitting the booze early today? Or you just always this angry on a Saturday afternoon
Never said that. The facts are Daniels was NOT the best QB on this team and because Kelly brought him in, he played him. Denbrock is more an issue than Kelly to be honest. Dual threat? All 3 were. Howard was arguably the strongest physically on the team. His ability to be physical is impressive.
Why not take your lumps in season 1 instead of setting the program back.
NAME 1 BK QB that has done ANYTHING in the pros? He THINKS he is a QB whisperer. If his arse doesn’t realize this shite isn’t acceptable to have a 1 trick pony in Daniels and his numbers regress because SEC defenses will hold his arse in the pocket like 3 teams did this season, his sorry arse will be gone within 5 years. Screw that man. Be smart and build the team with a QB that will eventually win and not look at the immediate.
You fricking people are stupid on here. The late great Bill Walsh knew this. READ THE FREAKING BOOK THE SCORE TAKES CARE OF ITSELF!!!! Dumbasses.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:45 pm to Pelican fan99
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dang bruh you hitting the booze early today? Or you just always this angry on a Saturday afternoon
He takes this board seriously.
It's just a game. This is just a bitch board.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:48 pm to Tiger1988
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How many of those QBs were playing at their dad’s alma mater? Just Nix?
Sam Huard.
And even worse, Damon Huard works for Washington
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:34 pm to deuce985
quote:Do you understand that transfers occurred prior to the portal? WTF is wrong with you?
Are you serious? The transfer portal hasn't been around a decade. jesus. Do some of you have a functioning brain at all on here?
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:35 pm to mdomingue
quote:This is EXACTLY why I asked for prior data - so we can form a baseline to judge whether we should be skyscreaming or stifflegging.
Here is what I found. 9 5*s from 2014-2017. 6 of those transferred at least once. 66.7%. So that is more than from 2018-2021. So is the OP suggesting the new normal is fewer 5* QBs will transfer? Or maybe just assuming he knew something that he actually did not?
Thank you for providing this. Maybe the rest of the pussies can get over themselves.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:28 pm to mdomingue
BTW - I was one of the VERY VERY FEW on here that factually stated on the Coaching changes board that Brian Kelly was the best name left on the board BEFORE he was hired and was voted into oblivion by the smarty pants on here.
So I stand by what I wrote on Daniels inability to be better than Johnny Manziel. Chief held him and the pocket and kept him at a QBR at about 80.
So I stand by what I wrote on Daniels inability to be better than Johnny Manziel. Chief held him and the pocket and kept him at a QBR at about 80.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:41 pm to deuce985
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Are you serious? The transfer portal hasn't been around a decade. jesus. Do some of you have a functioning brain at all on here?
What if I told you there is no actual transfer portal? That it is simply a name for a place where the names of all the people who want to or do transfer can be collated and that transfers have been around for decades, just a few of the rules have changed.
Examples that occurred more than a decade ago:
Willie Heston, Halfback
San Jose State, 1898-1900
Michigan, 1901-1904
Elroy “Crazy Legs” Hirsch, Halfback
Wisconsin, 1941-1942
Michigan, 1943
George Connor, Tackle
Holy Cross, 1943-1944
Notre Dame, 1946-1947
Jeff George, Quarterback
Purdue, 1986
Illinois, 1988-1989
Troy Aikman, Quarterback
Oklahoma, 1984-1985
UCLA, 1987-1988
JJ Watt, Defensive End
Central Michigan, 2007
Wisconsin, 2009-2010
Russell Wilson, Quarterback
NC State, 2008-2010
Wisconsin, 2011
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:50 pm to Tiger1988
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So I stand by what I wrote on Daniels inability to be better than Johnny Manziel.
SO Daniels isn't as good as a Heisman trophy winner? Is someone arguing he is?
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
Again, you don't use your brain. The rule changes dramatically changed and shifted. You had a lot of highly recruited QBs transfer but it was nowhere near as bad now due to NIL and the portal transfer rule changes. It's not even close really.
It's not the same thing as transfers from a decade ago. It's a totally different era now. They're far more frequent and there's more tampering going around due to rule changes.
It's not the same thing as transfers from a decade ago. It's a totally different era now. They're far more frequent and there's more tampering going around due to rule changes.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 10:04 pm to deuce985
quote:Another poster provided data that showed - quite literally - that you are wrong...at least as far as these 5-star QBs go.
Again, you don't use your brain. The rule changes dramatically changed and shifted. You had a lot of highly recruited QBs transfer but it was nowhere near as bad now due to NIL and the portal transfer rule changes. It's not even close really.
It's not the same thing as transfers from a decade ago. It's a totally different era now. They're far more frequent and there's more tampering going around due to rule changes.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 10:25 pm to ipodking
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Its time for fans to stop worrying about developing QBs on your roster
If you can't develop qb's for the future, then you can't coach them in the present. Every practice and game is development in one sense or another.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 10:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What do the data say prior to that? Who cares? Why is everyone so focused on this?
There’s an article from yahoo from several years ago regarding blue chip transfer rates. They were really high even before the portal. The transfer rates started to sky-rocket, though, in the last 10 years or so, across all positions but QBs by far more than any other. It ain’t the portal’s fault but that and NIL certainly have made it an even easier decision
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Do you understand that transfers occurred prior to the portal?
Correct.
Tracing 5* transfers is probably not the best metric since 5* QB CFB results are all over the place. They're certainly easier to trace since there aren't as many of them as other *s.
But the transfer rules changed in '21 making it easier to change schools. Before then, players had to sit out a year unless they were grad students, e.g., Burrow.
Seems like there were hardly transfer-ins from '70 until just recently. We got Rudy Harmon (ILB) and Young (CB) from SMU late 80s after SMU got the death penalty.
Now it's like CFB is re-shuffling the deck.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:00 am to AlwysATgr
quote:One pretty recent one I remember was Giles from Texas Tech. How he got the #7 designation I'll never know.
Seems like there were hardly transfer-ins from '70 until just recently
Posted on 1/15/23 at 12:15 am to Big Scrub TX
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One pretty recent one I remember was Giles from Texas Tech. How he got the #7 designation I'll never know.
Agreed. And his teammate from TT Fehoko.
Bill Elko (DL '81-'82) was a transfer (from ASU I think)
Straining my brain to recall players who transferred in.
Some older transfers from other schools:
Vince Ferragamo (QB) frmo Cal to Nebraska. He was theQB for them when we tied the 6-6 in TS in '76.
Breck Tyler (WR) from State to OM late 70s (?) when his dad (Bob Tyler) was fired from HC at State. We've also had Andre Hatch (QB) and the Ivy League center from a couple of seasons back.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:46 am to AlwysATgr
Just let USC, UT, and OSU take them all every year and grab one from them the next year. 
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:42 am to Tiger1988
Frankly IDC what these guys do in the pros. I want to win at LSU. Obviously the jury is still out on BK’s ability to develop/manage a roster if championships are the goal. I am skeptical about his view of what a QB needs to do.
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