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re: The new "helmet coming off the head" rule is dangerous

Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:10 pm to
The way it is right now. Most of the players losing their helmets likely already have it strapped on incorrectly.

It should fix that problem in my opinion
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:11 pm to
i completely agree that i think the rule was to make these guys actually strap their shite up instead of having one dangle all the time
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:12 pm to
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All ears doc.
Injury dissipation isn't contingent on the football helmet coming off. Different situation than combat helmets for example.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:12 pm to
You have concussions when the helmet is too loose and slides/moves around. It's why manufacturers like Riddell even as far back as 7-8 years ago reformatted the form of the helmet (it fits tighter at the base of the neck) to prevent this. It's why they also formulated technology to pack the helmet padding with air to make it fit tighter. And now with tighter straps to keep it from popping off.

So all of their research and adjustments made in the last decade or so goes against everything you're claiming here. Think about that.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:13 pm to
What's really wrong with this rule is that players could be rewarded for hitting players so hard that they knock their helmet off. Seems counterproductive to me.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:24 pm to
Yeah I'm not being very clear with what I'm saying. I'm not saying the helmet shouldn't be tight or secured as intended. I'm saying certain hits create forces that the helmet cant protect against and releasing the helmet from the head prevents injuries.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:26 pm to
How long before coaches use this rule to slow down no huddle offenses?
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

How long before coaches use this rule to slow down no huddle offenses?




cant wait for chip kelly to call someone out on this haha


I dont think the game stops i think the person just has to get off the field
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:29 pm to
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What do you think causes the helmet to come off?

More often than not, a helmet comes off because the player wasn't able to fasten it properly before the ball was snapped.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:31 pm to
Yeah I agree the rule is in place to stop the majority.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
154109 posts
Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

back in my day we didnt even wear helmets


In my day we didn't use pigskins

We played with live PIGS!!!
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 3:35 pm to
You do know Jeff Boss was the guy who stated the helmet stayed on more securely with front two straps short. We used to argue with him about it all the time at AEMA conventions and calls. I argued the front two were like taping ankle height c strap better anchor.

The reason hats are coming off is kids aren't airing or tightening straps properly and the technology in hats have improved so much they use the hat as a weapon not protection.

When I was at SMS we had rules, HC enforced also, for certain mask, all OL DL LB had to have top 2 screwed in, had to leave hat out after every Px so we could check hardware bladders etc.
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:07 pm to
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No. Think about how you secure things in everyday life. How often do you clips? It's because they fail. And they are meant to fail.


When I'm securing things that need to be able to be removed frequently and with relative ease?
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

The new "helmet coming off the head" rule is dangerous You do know Jeff Boss was the guy who stated the helmet stayed on more securely with front two straps short. We used to argue with him about it all the time at AEMA conventions and calls. I argued the front two were like taping ankle height c strap better anchor. The reason hats are coming off is kids aren't airing or tightening straps properly and the technology in hats have improved so much they use the hat as a weapon not protection. When I was at SMS we had rules, HC enforced also, for certain mask, all OL DL LB had to have top 2 screwed in, had to leave hat out after every Px so we could check hardware bladders etc.


Are your initials jm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:23 pm to
No, but Coach Boss and Shorty from KState are my "mentors". I had two best ever.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:30 pm to
My biggest problem is the kid has to come off even of a penalty knocked it off. That's ridic
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
140708 posts
Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:36 pm to
No they don't. They can stay on if hands to face facemask or illegal grasping of opening, or that's how I read the rule.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:40 pm to
U still active?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:43 pm to
No got out few years ago, but still talk to Bones, Ferrell, Cookie, and others.

I got out about time Will and Richie and some others got out.
This post was edited on 9/8/12 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 4:47 pm to
scientology has alrady provedened that this penealty is bougus
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