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re: The NBA is ruining Zion
Posted on 2/13/21 at 8:38 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 2/13/21 at 8:38 am to Fun Bunch
i do think SVG has been a real problem and hopefully he's getting out of the team's way, at least on offense
in that thread questioning Zion from a few weeks ago, one thing people overlooked in my comments was putting a lot of the blame on SVG
if Zion was playing under Gentry again no doubt in my mind he'd be playing better on offense over the course of this entire year
defensively, he's still a work in progress, which is one of the primary reasons SVG was brought in. so what's the point? Zion finally is blossoming again once SVG abandons what he wanted to do. it's frustrating
in that thread questioning Zion from a few weeks ago, one thing people overlooked in my comments was putting a lot of the blame on SVG
if Zion was playing under Gentry again no doubt in my mind he'd be playing better on offense over the course of this entire year
defensively, he's still a work in progress, which is one of the primary reasons SVG was brought in. so what's the point? Zion finally is blossoming again once SVG abandons what he wanted to do. it's frustrating
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Posted on 2/13/21 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t see a problem with SVG in Zions play. Zion is already incredible offensively and you have to credit SVG for adjusting and going Point Zion.
The issue with SVG is team ball. The roster doesn’t make a lot of sense and SVG hasn’t figured out how to used it and his defensive system is CLEARLY flawed this year and refuses to adjust. It wasn’t a good hire. He’s just too old and set in his ways.
Should have hired a Will Weaver type.
The issue with SVG is team ball. The roster doesn’t make a lot of sense and SVG hasn’t figured out how to used it and his defensive system is CLEARLY flawed this year and refuses to adjust. It wasn’t a good hire. He’s just too old and set in his ways.
Should have hired a Will Weaver type.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 8:44 am to Fun Bunch
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and you have to credit SVG for adjusting and going Point Zion.
that's why i said he's getting out of their way on offense, which is good
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and SVG hasn’t figured out how to used it and his defensive system is CLEARLY flawed this year
that's the thing. he's not really running and offense AND his defense sucks arse. he's just...bad all around
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:15 am to boosiebadazz
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Zion is the explosive Tractor Trailor with marginally (and diminishing) better knees.
It took Robert Traylor 290 games to get to the point total Zion has reached in 48 lol
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:19 am to Lester Earl
You’d have to add up like 5 of Tractors season averages to get Zion’s right now. Good take though 
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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why do you value defensive rebounding so much for a wing?
1. He's not a wing
2. Its the mindset and what he's putting his energy towards development wise. Being a fricking PG or rebounding/defense
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:35 am to VerlanderBEAST
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1. He's not a wing
He is.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
If you’re going to blame SVG for the way he was using Zion (which is largely the same way Gentry was using Zion last year), then you should also give him credit for the adjustment he’s made with Zion the playmaker.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:40 am to VerlanderBEAST
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1. He's not a wing
Sure he is.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:51 am to TotesMcGotes
This guy is clueless. It's clear he doesn't watch many basketball games. Makes me feel embarrassed to be a Verlander fan
Posted on 2/13/21 at 9:57 am to whodat24
This has kind of been his shtick for 10 years now. Just atrocious take after atrocious take.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:09 am to VerlanderBEAST
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I love Zion he should be the best player of his generation and a once in a lifetime talent. This generations Shaq. But the NBA is trying to turn him in to Eric fricking Bledsoe
I don’t think any rational person could not think he’s well on his way to that right now. The only person in his “generation” that has an argument right now is luka.
Morant is great but the gap between him and zion will continue to widen.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:13 am to VerlanderBEAST
So you think the Pelicans are wasting Zion by not making him focus all of his energy on rebounds? That’s what would make him a generational star? Rebounds? Why not just trade him for Andre Drummond then?
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:15 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:like this right?
This has kind of been his shtick for 10 years now. Just atrocious take after atrocious take.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
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The switch to Point Forward has unlocked him into an absolutely incredible level. He’s averaging like 7 assists a game over his last 8.
He’s already a top 20 scorer in the league.
He’s averaging less than 4.5 assists over his last 8 games and calling him a top 20 scorer in the league is plausible but also a bit of a stretch. He sits at 15th in PPG currently but is ahead of guys like AD, James Harden, Devin Booker, and Donovan Mitchell, who are all better and more established scorers than Zion is. I have no prob calling him a top 25 scorer though.
This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:46 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Pels are 2nd in the league in offensive rebounding, 4th in defensive rebounding.
he shouldnt just be limited to rebounding his own misses. He should own the glass on both ends.
This ain't the hill to die on.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Speaking of, he's hurt or something is up with him.
why? we have steven adams
Averaging 4 and 4 in his last 4 games.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 10:57 am to RebelTheBear
quote:So he's ahead of those dudes scoring more points per game than them AND scoring more efficiently than those dudes, so...
calling him a top 20 scorer in the league is plausible but also a bit of a stretch. He sits at 15th in PPG currently but is ahead of guys like AD, James Harden, Devin Booker, and Donovan Mitchell, who are all better and more established scorers than Zion is
Posted on 2/13/21 at 11:02 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:he’s not tall enough to be Shaq
This generations Shaq.
Better comparison is Charles Barkley
Posted on 2/13/21 at 11:13 am to VerlanderBEAST
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he shouldnt just be limited to rebounding his own misses. He should own the glass on both ends.
This is a fundamental ignorance of nba basketball. Like damn this is bad.
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