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re: The Miami Heat: A Microcosm of what is wrong with this Country
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:14 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:14 pm to theunknownknight
quote:the OP
theunknownknight
Great Post my friend
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:19 pm to theunknownknight
Terrible post by someone who can't stand to see someone succeed.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:23 pm to biglil3
I really don't understand the distain for Lebron.
He gave a lot of time to Cleveland and they refused to make any attempt to build a team. He took less money to go to Miami and play with good players.
Every pro team ever has tried to get good players together. Why is Miami different?
I did not like Lebron until he went to Miami and the giant asshurt started.
Its funny that people who claim to be fans of the sport can't enjoy greatness right in front of their eyes simply because nobody is as good as Jordan or because of some bullshite perception that LBJ has entitlement issues.
He gave a lot of time to Cleveland and they refused to make any attempt to build a team. He took less money to go to Miami and play with good players.
Every pro team ever has tried to get good players together. Why is Miami different?
I did not like Lebron until he went to Miami and the giant asshurt started.
Its funny that people who claim to be fans of the sport can't enjoy greatness right in front of their eyes simply because nobody is as good as Jordan or because of some bullshite perception that LBJ has entitlement issues.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:29 pm to theunknownknight
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Why are the Heat are hated? They are hated by people who recognize hard work and loyalty matters.
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Why are the Heat are hated? There is a large segment of people in America who respect fighters, who respect those who rise to the challenge, who respect loyalty, and who respect someone WANTING to earn their way.
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Why are the Heat are hated? The Heat represent taking the modern short-cut to glory. They represent a lack of loyalty and dedication to team work.
I'm not even a Heat fan but this whole thing is an irrational shite fit.
Pat Riley put this team together and I don't see that as being any different from:
1) Ainge assembling the Celtics (KG and RA added to Pierce) recently,
2) The Lakers trading for KAJ to lay the foundation of their 80s championships (a trade btw that KAJ may have pretty much dictated if your primary objection is player control)
3) The Celtics picking up McHale, Parrish, and Walton as well as drafting Bird
4) The Lakers bringing in Shaq as a free agent, trading Vlade for Kobe, trading for Pau, and picking up name free agents like Malone, Payton, etc
5) The Heat bringing in Shaq to win immediately with D Wade half a dozen years ago
This Heat team was primarily the result of free agency but we'd already seen this or attempts at this same thing in the Celtics big three and the Lakers with Shaq, Malone, Payton, etc. The idea of objecting more to this because the players liked the idea as much as the coaches is just silliness to me when its already been done and there's nothing fundamentally different about it from prior examples
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:31 pm to molsusports
Hate is such an ugly word
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:34 pm to shel311
Who said anything about the bulls? What are you not getting?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:45 pm to molsusports
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I'm not even a Heat fan but this whole thing is an irrational shite fit.
Pat Riley put this team together and I don't see that as being any different from:
1) Ainge assembling the Celtics (KG and RA added to Pierce) recently,
2) The Lakers trading for KAJ to lay the foundation of their 80s championships (a trade btw that KAJ may have pretty much dictated if your primary objection is player control)
3) The Celtics picking up McHale, Parrish, and Walton as well as drafting Bird
4) The Lakers bringing in Shaq as a free agent, trading Vlade for Kobe, trading for Pau, and picking up name free agents like Malone, Payton, etc
5) The Heat bringing in Shaq to win immediately with D Wade half a dozen years ago
This Heat team was primarily the result of free agency but we'd already seen this or attempts at this same thing in the Celtics big three and the Lakers with Shaq, Malone, Payton, etc. The idea of objecting more to this because the players liked the idea as much as the coaches is just silliness to me when its already been done and there's nothing fundamentally different about it from prior examples
Nailed it. Unfortunately, your logic and facts are absolutely useless when dealing with this OP.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:46 pm to DelU249
quote:You did.
Who said anything about the bulls? What are you not getting?
in 2011,you picked the Bulls to come out of the east.
Now you're saying the Heat have always been a lock for the finals.
That's what I'm not getting.
Like I said, revisionist history
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:47 pm to theunknownknight
Hmmmm I agree
World ends soon
World ends soon
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:50 pm to shel311
I do not remember picking the bulls. I dit remember piking anythibg. Wanting the bulls, maybe I don't know, but from the moment of the decision my friends and I never talk/watch basketball, we know what's up. I get drawn in every year around finals time thinking perhaps there will be an upset but that's a fleeting hope
And that's just because I like and pick underdogs that don't play in NOLA
And that's just because I like and pick underdogs that don't play in NOLA
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:53 pm to Purple Spoon
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Cleveland and they refused to make any attempt to build a team.
yes they did, and he would have won at least 2 rings there had he stayed....and that would have earned him more respect than you could imagine
and FYI....ever notice that the NBA Greats never come to Lebron or Miami's defense??? It's well known that they(including MJ) have little respect for what the Heat are doing....I value their opinion more than anyone else's, and they happen to agree with me; so I'm feeling okay with my stance
Posted on 6/21/13 at 7:59 pm to biglil3
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and FYI....ever notice that the NBA Greats never come to Lebron or Miami's defense??? It's well known that they(including MJ) have little respect for what the Heat are doing....I value their opinion more than anyone else's, and they happen to agree with me; so I'm feeling okay with my stance
Karl Malone:
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"Let me tell you something," Karl Malone said. "There's just a few guys I would go see play. Now, I'm not going to pay to see any of them play. But there are some guys that I like to see play, and to see how LeBron is playing with such a confidence and an aura about him, I absolutely love it."
Bill Russell:
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When he left Cleveland, I had absolutely no problem with that. To me, it was a real expression of free agency. In my time, we had worked hard to get that to be a reality. In fact, I was very pleased.
Kareem Abdul-Jabaar:
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LeBron had extraordinary athletic gifts from Day One. And there was no telling how far he would go. His continued improvement is a testimony to his desire to be the best he could be. I admire that.
And lots more here that says otherwise.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:00 pm to biglil3
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and FYI....ever notice that the NBA Greats never come to Lebron or Miami's defense??? It's well known that they(including MJ) have little respect for what the Heat are doing.
This makes you sound like a complete retard. Magic was sucking the heat off hard, Shaq, Scottie Pippen, Kenny Smif etc.
Just because MJ is a dick and trying to selfishly protect his own legacy, doesn't mean shite. The heat/lebron haters have created an imaginary "sanctity" related to building a team through the draft as the only "honorable" way to win in the NBA. Ignoring the facts and logic because of the blind hate is simple minded.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:00 pm to Purple Spoon
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He gave a lot of time to Cleveland and they refused to make any attempt to build a team.
no just no
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:02 pm to biglil3
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It's well known that they(including MJ) have little respect for what the Heat are doing....I value their opinion more than anyone else's, and they happen to agree with me; so I'm feeling okay with my stance
Michael Jordan goes to bed at night and says a prayer that Lebron James will get hit by a bus to protect his legacy. If you don't think Jordan wouldn't talk shite to protect his brand and legacy, you're a fan of Space Jam Jordan and not the real deal. Even Space Jam Jordan was a dick. Dude made a movie about him beating a team full of aliens with NBA players' talent with the fricking Looney Tunes.
There's one person who will openly say that he thinks Lebron may be the greatest, Scottie Pippen. Some people play it off as Pippen being jealous or some shite. Why would someone with six rings who is considered one of the greatest SFs to ever play need to pick Lebron over Jordan? He knew Jordan's game as well as anyone.
In fact, outside of the players in the media, Jordan isn't exactly rushed to be defended either. Karl Malone picked Pippen over Jordan for his all time dream team. Pippen is a MAJOR reason why Jordan won his titles because he was the facilitator.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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no just no
We can certainly wonder where Lebron might be now if Cleveland would've went with Stoudemire over Jamison. And maybe picked up some younger guys instead of a clearly aging Shaq.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:08 pm to BluegrassBelle
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We can certainly wonder where Lebron might be now if Cleveland would've went with Stoudemire over Jamison.
You can't blame LeBron for leaving Cleveland because of crap like that. Talk about a freaking let down.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:11 pm to c on z
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hard work for us to win back to back titles.
us....lulzy
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:13 pm to WHATDOINO
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Theunknowndouche is killing me with his replies. This idiot actually believes his bullshite. The lakers are the epitome of everything he is bitching about. Look at their squad RIGHT NOW. 2 lock hall of famers and the best big in the game. If it was so easy to buy a championship the lakers would have been playing oit of the west. The guy needs ro stfu and respect lebron james and his game
Posted on 6/21/13 at 8:19 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Ahhhhhhh, back to the thing where you believe every unsubstantiated rumor that made the Internet rounds without many credible sources, if any, touching all these stories you believe because they're anti Lebron but if they were pro Lebron there would be zero chance you'd believe them.
no just no
Yea let's rehash that one
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