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The MAN who won the women's swimming event..testosterone discussion
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:34 am
My knowledge of all the testing that goes on for steroids, greatly relies on elevated testosterone levels, compared to readings of normal acceptable levels.And if they are abnormally high, they are considered to be doping.
Seems I remember also, if they are too low, it proves masking is taking place, and is illegal also.
How is this guy's levels not considered too high, in regards to the average woman competitor?
Does he dope in a way to reduce them?
If he can be a champion with his higher levels, wouldn't the others be fine to take substances to elevate their own levels to his?
Has anyone heard how his team gets around this issue or how the governing body has addressed?
I found this
And W T F!..
They DOUBLED his acceptable levels!!
And
Article I found.
Swimming World article
Seems I remember also, if they are too low, it proves masking is taking place, and is illegal also.
How is this guy's levels not considered too high, in regards to the average woman competitor?
Does he dope in a way to reduce them?
If he can be a champion with his higher levels, wouldn't the others be fine to take substances to elevate their own levels to his?
Has anyone heard how his team gets around this issue or how the governing body has addressed?
I found this
quote:
the range 7.7 to 29.4 nmol/L and 0 to 1.7 nmol/L in healthy women, so for fairness and considering the over-representation of women with naturally higher levels in sport, the IAAF recently formulated new regulations and defined a maximum testosterone level of 5.0 nmol/L for eligibility in the female classification of ...
And W T F!..
quote:
the time since the Thomas debate arose, there have been rules changes to the requirements for transgender participation by the NCAA and USA Swimming. The NCAA initially stated it would abide by USA Swimming guidelines on the topic, but upon hearing that the national governing body had instituted a testosterone threshold of 5 nmols/L, the NCAA retreated on its decision. Subsequently, the NCAA – for this winter – indicated that Thomas be eligible for next month’s NCAA Championships in Atlanta if Thomas can produce a testosterone threshold of 10 nmols/L.
They DOUBLED his acceptable levels!!
And
quote:
By transitioning to female after undergoing male puberty, Thomas owned several characteristics that provided an advantage over biological females. In addition to possessing higher testosterone levels, Thomas’ experience with male puberty also offered enhanced lung capacity, larger hands and feet and greater strength.
Article I found.
Swimming World article
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:51 am
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:37 am to the LSUSaint
Don't try to make sense of something that doesn't make sense. It should not be allowed.
The guy gets treated like a girl because he changed his name to lia & that's about as far as it goes.
The guy gets treated like a girl because he changed his name to lia & that's about as far as it goes.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:37 am to the LSUSaint
I don't know but he already went through male puberty and was a grown arse man when he transitioned. My understanding is that hormones and testosterone blockers do very little at that point
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:42 am to lsufb1912
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Don't try to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.
Im not, that's why I'm going into discussions about the written rules in reference to testosterone.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:44 am to the LSUSaint
Typically they’re looking for synthetic testosterone
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:46 am to the LSUSaint
This was bound to happen… it is a such thing as out of control equality to the point it doesn’t make sense… everyone knows it’s ridiculous but hell society is basically backed into a corner
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:50 am to lsufb1912
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Don't try to make sense of something that doesn't make sense. It should not be allowed.
The guy gets treated like a girl because he changed his name to lia & that's about as far as it goes.
Yep. It's the world progressive liberalism has led us to, so all things like this are acceptable.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:52 am to bad93ex
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Typically they’re looking for synthetic testosterone
Not really. Just flat our levels are set...see article.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:53 am to kywildcatfanone
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Yep. It's the world progressive liberalism has led us to, so all things like this are acceptable.
All they have to do is follow the written rules.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:53 am to the LSUSaint
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This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:54 am to the LSUSaint
There is no logical, sensible explanation for any of this. This guy is competing as a girl, even though he clearly isn't, because no one wants to be cancelled.
I argue that maybe some of this stuff should be cancelled until all of the bullshite is stopped and we come to a reasonable compromise for all this: that being that trans atheletes are more than welcome to compete in their own, separate category, or competition.
But then that wouldn't be allowing them to live their truth, so it won't happen. There isn't enough outrage yet.
I argue that maybe some of this stuff should be cancelled until all of the bullshite is stopped and we come to a reasonable compromise for all this: that being that trans atheletes are more than welcome to compete in their own, separate category, or competition.
But then that wouldn't be allowing them to live their truth, so it won't happen. There isn't enough outrage yet.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:58 am to the LSUSaint
IMO, they should build a WNBA team of nothing but transgenders and pay them NBA salaries.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:07 am to wadewilson
I just cannot believe that women's rights groups would let their programs be infiltrated.
NO woman will do the opposite in sports. And if they try, they'll be dead last in that physical sport.
NO woman will do the opposite in sports. And if they try, they'll be dead last in that physical sport.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:08 am to the LSUSaint
Vandy's kicker?
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:19 am to wadewilson
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Vandy's kicker?
2 easy points.
No woman's football offered
There are several non D1 kickers in high-school in Baton Rouge that are much better than her.
He'll, I wpuld.imagine there are several on Vandy better
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:25 am to wadewilson
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Vandy's kicker?
Her kicks are garbage. She had no business walking on to that team, let alone actually getting playing time.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:37 am to Rhio
quote:That's it, that's the best explanation here. Everything about it is illogical.
There is no logical, sensible explanation for any of this. This guy is competing as a girl, even though he clearly isn't, because no one wants to be cancelled.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:38 am to the LSUSaint
Thanks God for another post about this guy. I was worried we'd go a day with out one
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:43 pm to JFT96
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Thanks God for another post about this guy. I was worried we'd go a day with out one
Although a pos post, the topic really isn't about just him. It's the threshold of testosterone for women that was in place and had yo be DOUBLED to let him in.
How can a governing body realistically suspend ANY athletes if they bend rules for others?
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