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re: The eight blue bloods of college football…?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:02 am to GoGators1995
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:02 am to GoGators1995
Yep. My bad. Nebraska won their division in 2012 before the B1G split into east and west divisions.
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:02 am to Tornado Alley
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Nebraska won the B1G West in 2016.
No they didn’t. They won the Big Ten “Legends” division in 2012 and proceeded to give up 70 points and lose by 5-6 scores in the Conference championship game, to 8-4 Wisconsin, who was only in the game because 12-0 Ohio State was on probation.
The BT West was formed in 2014. In 8 seasons, they’ve finished 2nd twice, 4th once, 5th four times, and 6th once. They’ve had a losing record in conference play in 75% of their Big Ten West seasons.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:13 am to RollTide1987
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And there are only eight blue bloods in college football: Alabama, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas and USC.
They have won 46 of the 80 Associated Press national championships. If you are talking bloodlines, then the dominance necessary to become a college football blue blood must span not just coaches but generations.
History and tradition? The blue bloods won every AP title from 1961-75. The only one of the eight that did not win an AP title in that era was Michigan, which brings up a dilemma. What makes a blue blood?
If you set a minimum standard -- say, winning at least two national titles in the last 50 years -- then Michigan is not a blue blood. The Wolverines' share of the 1997 national title (with Nebraska) was their first since 1948. While that's a fact-based argument, it also ignores a vast amount of history, tradition and just plain common sense.
The school that won the first Rose Bowl, a 49-0 victory over Stanford on Jan. 1, 1902; the school that went 55-0-1 from the beginning of the 1901 season until the last game of 1905; the school that, upon its return to the Rose Bowl 46 years later, beat USC by the same score of 49-0; the school that won or shared 13 Big Ten championships in Bo Schembechler's 21 seasons; the school that gave us "Hail to the Victors" and those wonderful winged helmets; that school is a blue blood, national championships or not.
The teams that fell just short of blue-bloodedness are the nouveau riche: Florida State has been a dominant player for fewer than 30 years, Florida has ebbed and flowed for 25 years, and Miami's reign barely lasted 20. And LSU has even less of a claim.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:14 am to RollTide1987
Average of all-time wins and all-time win percentage:
1. Alabama 2.0
---You can objectively rank UA above UM since they lead the all-time series and have won 6 BCS/CFP titles.
2. Michigan 2.0
3. Ohio State 2.0
---You can objectively rank UM above OSU since they lead the all-time series and have more B10 titles. And OSU also has a losing record to UA.
4. Notre Dame 4.0
5. Texas 6.0
---You can objectively rank UT above UO since they lead the all-time series.
6. Oklahoma 6.0
7. Nebraska 9.0
8. USC 9.5
9. Georgia 11.0
---Objectively swapped. UGA has won more SEC titles, leads the series, and has now won 2 BCS/CFP titles. UT has also benefited from playing Kentucky and Vanderbilt a combined 227 times.
10. Tennessee 10.5
I don't know how important BCS/CFP titles would be since that didn't start until 1998. They should count, but by how much?
Major bowls is complicated too because ND didn't allow their football team to play in them until the late 60s. The B10 had stupid no repeat rule and only only 1 team to play in a bowl until the mid 70s.
1. Alabama 2.0
---You can objectively rank UA above UM since they lead the all-time series and have won 6 BCS/CFP titles.
2. Michigan 2.0
3. Ohio State 2.0
---You can objectively rank UM above OSU since they lead the all-time series and have more B10 titles. And OSU also has a losing record to UA.
4. Notre Dame 4.0
5. Texas 6.0
---You can objectively rank UT above UO since they lead the all-time series.
6. Oklahoma 6.0
7. Nebraska 9.0
8. USC 9.5
9. Georgia 11.0
---Objectively swapped. UGA has won more SEC titles, leads the series, and has now won 2 BCS/CFP titles. UT has also benefited from playing Kentucky and Vanderbilt a combined 227 times.
10. Tennessee 10.5
I don't know how important BCS/CFP titles would be since that didn't start until 1998. They should count, but by how much?
Major bowls is complicated too because ND didn't allow their football team to play in them until the late 60s. The B10 had stupid no repeat rule and only only 1 team to play in a bowl until the mid 70s.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:44 am to LSUbub12
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I’ve always felt there are only 5 true blue bloods in college football and they are Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and USC in no particular order.
I'd add Michigan. Top 3 in wins, win%, most Big10 titles/Rose Bowls, and scoreboard on Ohio St/Penn St/Mich St./Notre Dame, and three Heisman winners
Rich Rod and Hoke were taking them down the Nebraska path, but Harbaugh has brought them back in a big way - five 10+ wins in 8 seasons plus two Final Four appearances.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
Another issue with your link is they aren't consistent with how they count or don't count stuff that was vacated.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:33 pm to baybeefeetz
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Oklahoma Texas and Nebraska are on same level as LSU.
Never, ever confuse Oklahoma and the shorthorns. Do your research, the Sooners have earned it.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:50 pm to bamameister
Texas leads OU 63-50-5.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:52 pm to McNet
You can put them at 6 then but there is a clear gap after the top 5.
Michigan’s lack of poll era national championships compared to the others is a problem.
Only 2 and one is from the 40’s and none in the BCS/CFP era.
Michigan’s lack of poll era national championships compared to the others is a problem.
Only 2 and one is from the 40’s and none in the BCS/CFP era.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:58 pm to GoGators1995
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Texas leads OU 63-50-5.
Check their Championship Trophy room out.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:00 pm to McNet
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Harbaugh has brought them back in a big way - five 10+ wins in 8 seasons plus two Final Four appearances.
Somewhat. He's still *2-5 against Ohio State and 1-6 in bowl games.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:00 pm to bamameister
No surprise a Bama fan thinks mythical polls matter more than what actually happens on the field. 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:02 pm to bamameister
Agreed. H2H is the only thing Texas has over Oklahoma. It really isn’t even close after that.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:02 pm to LSUbub12
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Agreed. H2H is the only thing Texas has over Oklahoma. It really isn’t even close after that.
Everything else is mythical and they've only been in the same conference since 1996.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:05 pm to RollTide1987
If you haven't won a national championship in in two decades you can't be included in a "blue bloods" list.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:10 pm to GoGators1995
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No surprise a Bama fan thinks mythical polls matter more than what actually happens on the field.
Nothing "mythological" about a National Championship Trophy. Get yourself a ticket to the Bryant Museum and see what your program is missing.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:14 pm to bamameister
Yep, I'm sure you think everyone should recognize 1941 because some poll or newspaper gave you a trophy. 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:19 pm to GoGators1995
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Yep, I'm sure you think everyone should recognize 1941 because some poll or newspaper gave you a trophy.
Personally, I couldn't care less. The line between ALABAMA and the rest of the football world is gigantic as it is. The gold standard has long since been set.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:20 pm to RollTide1987
I don’t understand how people say Texas is a blue blood when they have one championship on over 50 years. Most underachieving program of all time.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:21 pm to bamameister
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Personally, I couldn't care less. The line between ALABAMA and the rest of the football world is gigantic as it is. The gold standard has long since been set.
Which has nothing to do with the fact that national titles were mythical until the BCS.
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