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re: The eight blue bloods of college football…?

Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:41 pm to
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and scoreboard on Ohio St


And that's only because of the games played over 100 years ago. In the last 100 years Ohio State has the advantage.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:41 pm to
Top 10 in both wins and win percentage.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:43 pm to
I didn't downvote you on the previous page.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:44 pm to
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I disagree. I think they're a step down from Bama, SC, ND, OU, and Ohio State.

Why would they be a step down from USC?
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Top 10 in both wins and win percentage.


Maybe you're right. Tejas has a lot of wins against winning programs, unlike OU with K-State and Kansas and Tennessee with Vandy and Kentucky.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:47 pm to
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I don't think they played a murderer's row for much of their history


This is true and a big part of the reason why despite being undefeated they really weren't considered for the 1969 title.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Why would they be a step down from USC?


USC has 11 claimed and 6 unclaimed national titles. Texas doesn't approach those numbers at all. USC also has (or still recently had) the most first round draft picks as well as the most draft picks. Add in all the conference titles, All-Americans and Heisman winners and the gap widens. USC has 36 conference championships to Texas' 32.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:51 pm to
They've never been in the same conference and everything else you listed is mythical.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:52 pm to
You need to get this mythical shite out of your mind else you don't believe there were any championships won before the advent of the BCS. So go ahead with your football started in 1998 crap.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:53 pm to
You can get mad if you want but that's a fact. Bama went from 6 "titles" in 1983 to 11 in 1984.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:54 pm to
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So go ahead with your football started in 1998 crap.

Strawman. Calm down.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:55 pm to
It’s not entirely wrong though. A lot of the pre-BCS titles are fugazi if you dig into them. For a lot of teams too.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Why would they be a step down from USC?


They're below Bama, SC, ND, OU, and Ohio State in:
- Weeks in the AP poll
- Weeks at #1
- Final rankings in the AP poll
- Claimed national championships
- AP national championships
- Conference championships (ND is inapplicable here)
- NFL draft picks
- First round draft picks
- Heisman Trophy winners

They're below 3/5 in total wins. They have 2 more wins than OU despite playing 34 more games (OU's winning percentage is .725 and Tejas's is .701). They've also played 75 more games than SC.

They're below 4/5 in total wins and winning percentage. They beat SC on this point .701 to .696

I'm not saying Tejas is a scrub program. I'm just saying they're just a step below Bama, SC, ND, OU, and Ohio State.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:55 pm to
I'm not mad. That's just the criteria by which things were judged. We all know about Alabama's titles that aren't titles (Notre Dame beat them on the field in the 1973 Sugar Bowl) and USC's "unclaimed" titles.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm to
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It’s not entirely wrong though. A lot of the pre-BCS titles are fugazi if you dig into them. For a lot of teams too.


There are some asinine claims. There are also some legitimate ones.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:57 pm to
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It’s not entirely wrong though. A lot of the pre-BCS titles are fugazi if you dig into them. For a lot of teams too.

Every single one before the BCS was voted on. That's a fact. Even after we beat FSU in the Sugar Bowl 52-20 the only trophy we celebrated with on the field that night was the Sugar Bowl trophy.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
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They're below Bama, SC, ND, OU, and Ohio State in:
- Weeks in the AP poll
- Weeks at #1
- Final rankings in the AP poll
- Claimed national championships
- AP national championships
- Conference championships (ND is inapplicable here)
- NFL draft picks
- First round draft picks
- Heisman Trophy winners

They're below 3/5 in total wins. They have 2 more wins than OU despite playing 34 more games (OU's winning percentage is .725 and Tejas's is .701). They've also played 75 more games than SC.

They're below 4/5 in total wins and winning percentage. They beat SC on this point .701 to .696

I'm not saying Tejas is a scrub program. I'm just saying they're just a step below Bama, SC, ND, OU, and Ohio State.

Everything you listed is mythical. They've never been in the same conference as Bama/SC/ND/Ohio State and have only been in the same conference as OU since 1996. All-time means all-time.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:00 pm to
I think the word you're looking for is subjective, not mythical.
Posted by GoGators1995
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:03 pm to
If it's voted on, it's mythical.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:05 pm to
Good thing I listed some things that aren't.
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