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re: The ATL Thread: 2021 World Champion Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Dansby also hit a huge HR late in a pivotal WS game. Not sure what that stat is called.

Dansby has the clutch gene.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Dansby has the clutch gene.



bUt hE sUcKs
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:28 pm to
You’re insufferable. Your victim complex and overblowing any comments that aren’t pure sunshine are why most people on here think you’re a joke. Dansby is a middle of the pack ss. Resigning him would be nice, but acting like he’s the caliber of player that you make long term moves to save money for is absurd. He’s probably fifth on the list of young guys we should be trying to extend. Especially if you’re a moron who thinks he deserves top 5 ss money, which these days runs you $200 million or so
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 6:30 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:43 pm to
You also thought Riley was a bust. So you really aren't a great judge of talent.

And I don't think he's top-5, but he's a glue guy who's clutch, plays GG defense, and is a leader. He definitely deserves 15MIL/yr.IMO..

Dansby isn't the scrub you make him out to be.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:54 pm to
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You also thought Riley was a bust. So you really aren't a great judge of talent.



How are you going to call someone out for being wrong on something Braves related when you said there was no chance AA lets Freddie walk 5 months ago?
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 7:15 pm to
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How are you going to call someone out for being wrong on something Braves related when you said there was no chance AA lets Freddie walk 5 months ago?
Never even said he was a bust. Just said I though trading for bryant or Ramirez and moving Riley to the outfield would give us the best chance to win. And those moves instead of resigning Ozuna would have made us a better team in the regular season. This is just another example of what everyone hates about SBD. Blowing mild criticism out of proportion and acting like Nostradamus over one good prediction among 20 bad ones.

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And I don't think he's top-5, but he's a glue guy who's clutch, plays GG defense


You said multiple times last season that we had top 5 players at every infield position. I thought you liked bragging about owning your takes. And Dansby still has 0 GG and 1 season as a finalist, so lets stop acting like he is one of the truly elite defensive SS
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 7:21 pm to
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Blowing mild criticism out of proportion and acting like Nostradamus over one good prediction among 20 bad ones


He doesn't even make predictions, he just literally takes the stance to defend whatever happened as "the right move".

In his mind, he can never be wrong that way.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 7:32 pm to
Yeah, you guys can take the stance that letting Freddie walk , while we empty the farm for likely two years of Matt Olson is great, but if you don't think this isn't going to affect what was one of the best clubhouses in baseball during a time where our window to win is now, I don't know what to tell you.

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“It’s definitely different” not having him in camp, Braves star right fielder Ronald Acuña Jr. said through an interpreter. “Because we’ve all grown accustomed to having him here at the beginning of spring training. But I think we all know it’s a business and we’re just hoping that he’ll be able to come back.”

Acuña added, “You can just feel his contributions throughout the organization, and everything he’s done for the entire organization. I mean, obviously his accomplishments on the field, but the way he mentors and helps younger players along with the process — like I said, it’s been weird not having him around.”

Third baseman Austin Riley said he hoped Freeman would show up at some point. “What he’s meant to my career and the professional that he is, I’ve learned so much. And if I can continue to learn from him, I would be ecstatic. Everybody wants him here and hopefully he is (soon).

“I’m swiping Twitter all the time — refresh, refresh, refresh. Waiting to see some news. You just hope that he comes back. I know everybody else wants him to.”



“He’s been our guy for a number of years,” Snitker said. “And personally, he’s meant a lot to me. But we’ll see. … It’s a big piece, there’s no understating that.”

Of Freeman’s leadership role, Snitker said, “It’s huge. But you know what, it’s a pretty strong clubhouse in here.”
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 7:34 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:15 pm to
My uncle retired after getting his ring...he's now living the life in Boca
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:50 pm to
The clubhouse will be fine. Snit runs a great clubhouse. Again, fauxed concern b/c people are up in their feelings.

The leadership void will be picked up. My guess is from Dansby and possibly Ozzie.

And FWIW, Bowman was on Atlanta radio earlier and he said point blank that he expects Olsen to be signed long-term.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:53 pm to
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And Dansby still has 0 GG

That award is a popularity contest. That was Proven when David Wright won it over Chipper when Wright had double-digit errors and Chipper didn't. All b/c Wright played for a NY team.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81382 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:57 pm to
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And FWIW, Bowman was on Atlanta radio earlier and he said point blank that he expects Olsen to be signed long-term.



STAHP

He expected Freddie to re-sign longterm. No shite the dude employed by MLB/Braves is going to do everything he can to make the move look good.

Fact of the matter is, a lot is riding on Olson now, especially considering he has had one terrible year and one career year these last two seasons. We know we have two years with him, during that same time, Freddie is going to still be an MVP-caliber player. If Olson goes elsewhere in free agency and/or he comes back down to earth from last season, this move is a blunder.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:59 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:58 pm to
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How are you going to call someone out for being wrong on something Braves related when you said there was no c

Go back earlier in this thread and I mentioned that we need to prepare for the distinct possibility that he wasn't coming back, in not so many words. I had come around to that a while ago after THAT initial conversation right after the WS that you can't seem to let go.

We are allowed to change our opinions as situations change. You act like I've committed blasphemy
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81382 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Go back earlier in this thread and I mentioned that we need to prepare for the distinct possibility that he wasn't coming back, in not so many words. I had come around to that a while ago after THAT initial conversation right after the WS that you can't seem to let go.

We are allowed to change our opinions as situations change. You act like I've committed blasphemy


I have no problem with evolving opinions, just don't call people out for their opinions when you were loud wrong from something you said 5 months ago.

It also doesn't help that your opinions "evolve" into whatever AA does and then you call people out for having differing opinions.

That makes you a bitch.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30152 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:01 pm to
How can you possibly know it was a blunder? The fact of the matter is teams who give these MASSIVE deals to players entering their declining years almost always regret it. Your love of freeman blinds you to that, and it isn’t like we didn’t offer him a high paying deal. He owes nothing more to the Braves imo, he has given enough. Forced to be the only anchor during an extensive rebuild and won a World Series. If he wants to get paid I’m fine with it, especially with what we get in return.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:02 pm to


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, especially considering he has had one terrible year and one career year these last two seasons. We know

This is not factually correct. Olsen has had a higher WAR and a better DRS rating than Freddie the last 2 years. And he's hit for more homers(In Oakland).

Keep crying though. Like I said earlier you project more drama than my 6 yr.old daughter.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30152 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:05 pm to
Yeah the “Dansby sucks” narrative is one of the more retarded in all of professional sports at moment
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:05 pm to
You've never liked AA so don't even blow that smoke.

You would think the man would get the benefit of the doubt after winning a fricking WS but people like you and others are never happy unless you're always bickering about something.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81382 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:05 pm to
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How can you possibly know it was a blunder?


I don't know... that's why I said "If".

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The fact of the matter is teams who give these MASSIVE deals to players entering their declining years almost always regret it.


You can also regret letting an MVP in the middle of his prime walk, while giving up a shite ton for a guy who has had an up-and-down couple of seasons and can also leave in two years.

It's not just that we let Freddie go, it's also what we gave up to try and make up for letting him go. It is a huge risk to take when we're in the middle of our window.

We had the money, re-signing Freddie was the safer play, even if it meant paying him into his age-38 season.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81382 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:06 pm to
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SteelerBravesDawg



I'm convinced you have downs

Are you trying to seriously tell me that Olson had a better season than Freddie in 2020?

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Olsen has had a higher WAR and a better DRS rating than Freddie the last 2 years


Freeman 2020 WAR: 3.3

Olson 2020 WAR: 1.0

Stop lying
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 9:10 pm
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