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re: The ATL Thread: 2021 World Champion Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:35 am to auzach91
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:35 am to auzach91
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I just really don’t wanna give him 7 years.
If they give him 7 they can actually stretch the $$$ out and the AAV would be less.
But those last couple of years.....
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:20 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I'm starting to be ok with losing Freddie as long as we have a backup plan like Olson. Giving huge contracts to aging first basemen never works out well. It would suck to lose the face of the franchise and one hell of a baseball player, but if his top priority is getting max dollars and years, then I can't fault AA for not doing it.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:30 am to RedPants
quote:It sucks, but teams that want to win long-term sometimes have to let players walk or trade them. The nats let harper walk then won the WS. The Astros let Cole, Springer and Morton walk and haven't missed a beat. Even the dodgers with their infinite budget let seager and probably Kershaw walk
I'm starting to be ok with losing Freddie as long as we have a backup plan like Olson. Giving huge contracts to aging first basemen never works out well. It would suck to lose the face of the franchise and one hell of a baseball player, but if his top priority is getting max dollars and years, then I can't fault AA for not doing it.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 11:03 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:00 am to VinegarStrokes
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I don't think hamstringing the payroll with 30-35 mil a year from a aging player is necessarily going to be the easiest way for us to get there.
I've been driving this bus for a long, long time. Let's just say it is not a popular opinion.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:07 am to VADawg
You're not wrong.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:36 am to VADawg
How crazy is it that 1 month after winning the WS, we're all ok with losing the best player on the team (sans Ronald).
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:39 am to Dale Murphy
I don't think anyone is ok with losing Freeman. I think a lot of people are finally starting to come around to how bad a long term contract for a 32 year old player can cripple a franchise.
And yes. Winning a World Series really, really helps.
And yes. Winning a World Series really, really helps
.This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 11:40 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:13 pm to VADawg
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Winning a World Series really, really helps
I'll be emotionally gutted if Freddie walks away, but this is correct. Love him and want him to be a Brave for life, but we also need to make sure the franchise is making the best move for winning in the years to come. Hamstringing the team with a massive deal for an aging player isn't the winning recipe.
Having Freddie get us this title makes it a little bit easier to let him go, mentally.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:36 pm to DirtyDawg
With Freddie we are a WS contender for at least 2 more seasons. If they can find enough pieces to stay a WS contender okay let him go but if they can’t IMO it’s dumb to waste this window we are in
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:47 pm to hiltacular
So you would wanna cripple the club's finances by paying Freddie 200+ MIL?
B/c that's a quick way for the window to close.
B/c that's a quick way for the window to close.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:57 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
I would prefer we try to win another WS the next two seasons versus not crippling the franchise 5 years from now
Posted on 12/1/21 at 6:05 pm to hiltacular
That's the right answer.
And some times, hard decisions have to be made.
And some times, hard decisions have to be made.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 6:06 pm to hiltacular
quote:sprry, but if you let Freddie walk, trade for Olson and use some of the money to sign an outfielder, then the team realistically looks stronger for the next couple of years
I would prefer we try to win another WS the next two seasons versus not crippling the franchise 5 years from now
Posted on 12/1/21 at 6:08 pm to diremustang
I am totally fine with that if that’s the plan.
What I am not okay with is not signing freddie and not reallocating that $ towards immediately winning.
With the acuna contract and our current team, every decision we make should be geared towards winning now.
What I am not okay with is not signing freddie and not reallocating that $ towards immediately winning.
With the acuna contract and our current team, every decision we make should be geared towards winning now.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 7:38 pm to hiltacular
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I would prefer we try to win another WS the next two seasons versus not crippling the franchise 5 years from now
I don't think signing Freddie to a 7-year deal cripples the franchise. He's still got 3-5 years of MVP level baseball in him.
Seems like everyone is trying to change the narrative now that it looks like there's a chance he leaves.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:08 pm to Broski
I’m the opposite of everyone else. I’m not worried about the years. I think his swing will let him be successful when he’s older especially with the DH coming. I’m more concerned with a third of the budget going to 2 guys next year.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:15 pm to Broski
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I don't think signing Freddie to a 7-year deal cripples the franchise. He's still got 3-5 years of MVP level baseball in him.
I want him to stay too and have been on record that I think he stays, however;
If his contract takes up 2/3 of the payroll then you can't do that, it'd cripplee the franchise and would slam the window shut on any WS window
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:41 pm to Dale Murphy
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According to Jon Heyman, the Yankees and other teams get the impression that Freeman isn't leaving Atlanta. It's just up to the Braves to find a compromise on the years, he says. Money isn't the issue, the 6th year is.
It's always been about the years. Not the$$$$. They'll get it done once the lockout is over
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:42 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
For anyone wondering, the Braves player rep is Max Fried. Another thing he has in common w/Glavine.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:15 am to Broski
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I don't think signing Freddie to a 7-year deal cripples the franchise. He's still got 3-5 years of MVP level baseball in him.
Seems like everyone is trying to change the narrative now that it looks like there's a chance he leaves.
I've been very consistent on my stance. I love Freddie and want to keep him, but you can't overpay for him based on feels. This is not the kind of franchise that can afford to have "dead money" on the books like the Tigers have with Miggy right now. There is a long list of teams who almost immediately regret giving out long, high dollar contracts. It seems rare to me that these very long deals ever work out for the teams.
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