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The ACC is about crumble
Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:48 pm
Info based on a Friday Tampa Bay Times report:
There are also lots of rumblings that NC State and VA Tech have asked to enter the B10 or SEC but we're rebuffed and have now asked the B12 and the B12 is interested.
B12 also could take up to 4 schools.
The B10 and SEC are hesitant to take more than 2 teams from the ACC because they may fear some sort of anti-trust legal action.
The big battles between B10 and SEC will be over Clemson, FSU, UNC and UVA, apparently.
Duke and Miami are total wild cards.
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BREAKING: The ACC has officially announced that FSU is allowed to buy back their TV rights & exit the conference... A new lawsuit filed Friday has revealed that the ACC is seeking to negotiate with the Noles. Previously, the topic of leaving the ACC was set to hit court, where the stakes would be HUMONGOUS
If a judge decided that the ACC Grant of Rights were valid, the cost for an FSU exit would be up to $430M. However, if the GOR was invalid, FSU would have been allowed to exit for free... This is the first time in the ACC-FSU dispute that the ACC has agreed to NEGOTIATE with the Noles, marking a big step forward for Florida State
So how much would FSU have to pay in a settlement? Many experts in the realignment field believe that it could cost the Noles UNDER $100M...
This means FSU will be able to leave the ACC while saving a LOT of money in the process. And once the Noles are in the Big Ten or SEC, this buyout figure will feel like NOTHING ? The annual TV rights revenue figure in the SEC/B1G is $60M-70M annually, which DWARFS the ACC's $30M payout. Thus, FSU will be able to avoid significant financial hardship.
FSU's conference move is currently expected to occur before the 2026 season
There are also lots of rumblings that NC State and VA Tech have asked to enter the B10 or SEC but we're rebuffed and have now asked the B12 and the B12 is interested.
B12 also could take up to 4 schools.
The B10 and SEC are hesitant to take more than 2 teams from the ACC because they may fear some sort of anti-trust legal action.
The big battles between B10 and SEC will be over Clemson, FSU, UNC and UVA, apparently.
Duke and Miami are total wild cards.
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:58 pm to Jack Ruby
Im here for the madness
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:01 pm to Jack Ruby
Please UNC and UVA. The conference would be so fun 
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:07 pm to tigerbait2010
Tulane to ACC
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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UVA
Do they have a football program? I didn’t notice if they did
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:35 pm to tigerbait2010
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UNC
Yes
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UVA
VT would be 100x more interesting.
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:38 pm to tigerbait2010
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Please UNC and UVA. The conference would be so fun
Have you ever been to a football game in Charlottesville or Chapel Hill?
I have.
Neither place has anything resembling an SEC environment for football.
UNC basketball is beyond anything we’ve seen outside of Lexington, but they give zero f’s about football.
Posted on 2/16/24 at 11:42 pm to tide06
Got to go after FSU and Clemson. College basketball will never get close to returning to what it once was.
The entire realignment was about football, so you have to go after the top football schools in this spot.
The entire realignment was about football, so you have to go after the top football schools in this spot.
This post was edited on 2/16/24 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:12 am to tide06
Been to a UVA football game and it was the quietest major stadium I've ever been to. There was just absolutely no buzz or juice to the game. It was actually like being in a giant Roman amphitheater or something and watching a play, not a football game. Its not remotely close to even a mid-tier SEC game.
I've never understood the lust for UVA or UNC other than hoops and feigned academic "prestige" which is never what the SEC has been about.
Clemson is a natural fit, but FSU really rubs a lot of folks the wrong way in the SEC.
I've never understood the lust for UVA or UNC other than hoops and feigned academic "prestige" which is never what the SEC has been about.
Clemson is a natural fit, but FSU really rubs a lot of folks the wrong way in the SEC.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 12:14 am
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:40 am to pioneerbasketball
quote:
Im here for the madness
Same here. This whole conference realignment bullshite has gone completely sideways, so my attitude now is "frick it" as we will watch it all eventually burn to the ground.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:41 am to Jack Ruby
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Clemson is a natural fit, but FSU really rubs a lot of folks the wrong way in the SEC.
I’m not excited about Clemson. They’re about to be a forgettable program. I’d rather FSU and UNC. I do like think that UNC and Virginia fit the Big 10 academic mold way better though.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:45 am to higgsBoson
Let's grab Georgia tech and FSU then call it a day
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:57 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:Tech makes as much sense as Tulane
Let's grab Georgia tech and FSU then call it a day
FSU is absolutely desperate and has no bargaining power. If they want in they can take 15 years of reduced payouts. The rumblings that have come out from the SEC schools over the last few months is that they’re not interested in adding them or Clemson
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 1:00 am
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:26 am to Jack Ruby
Once the ACC dissolves we’ll be down to the Power 2 that everyone seems to want.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:39 am to RemouladeSawce
quote:I could see that.
FSU is absolutely desperate and has no bargaining power. If they want in they can take 15 years of reduced payouts. The rumblings that have come out from the SEC schools over the last few months is that they’re not interested in adding them or Clemson
I know Florida generally dislikes Fla State, and I could see FSU being a threat in LSU's eastern recruiting base. So I could see LSU and Fla uniting in opposition to the 'Noles.
Re Clemson, that would be a death sentence to South Carolina IMO, and I could see UGA supporting SC on this. We're not wanting to undermine any of the current members (with the exception of A&M
)Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:15 am to Scoob
If you take Clemson and FSU off the table, then who would the SEC even want?
Inc and Virginia?? M for fricking football?
Duke? Miami?
Hell. NC State fits the SEC as Mich ans anyone else.
Inc and Virginia?? M for fricking football?
Duke? Miami?
Hell. NC State fits the SEC as Mich ans anyone else.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:37 am to Jack Ruby
The problem with adding football powers is there's not a lot of room left at the top.
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, now Oklahoma and Texas.
One of them will finish no higher than 8th, and that's assuming one of the other teams like Ole Miss doesn't jump them.
Do that a few years in a row, and you're now established as mediocre.
Look at Arkansas; usually fighting it out with Texas, sometimes A&M. Odds are, at any time in the SWC, Arkansas was good and no lower than 3rd. They're mid-lower tier now in today's SEC. The more teams you add, the more get shunted to the middle.
What's the luster of adding Clemson, if they end up 6-6 every year because they can't handle the SEC core teams?
What's the Big 10 getting from Nebraska? Will they get any more from the Pac teams?
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, now Oklahoma and Texas.
One of them will finish no higher than 8th, and that's assuming one of the other teams like Ole Miss doesn't jump them.
Do that a few years in a row, and you're now established as mediocre.
Look at Arkansas; usually fighting it out with Texas, sometimes A&M. Odds are, at any time in the SWC, Arkansas was good and no lower than 3rd. They're mid-lower tier now in today's SEC. The more teams you add, the more get shunted to the middle.
What's the luster of adding Clemson, if they end up 6-6 every year because they can't handle the SEC core teams?
What's the Big 10 getting from Nebraska? Will they get any more from the Pac teams?
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:05 am to Scoob
dude, you don't understand what matters. the powers that be at Arkansas don't care if they're mediocre in the football standings. it's a business. tbey care about money.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 5:27 am to pioneerbasketball
I’m gonna laugh when fsu has no landing spot
The obvious fit is sec but how does that help sec
The obvious fit is sec but how does that help sec
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:14 am to nicholastiger
Virginia and North Carolina? We’d need to ramp up our lacrosse programs….
In all seriousness, Virginia offers really good baseball and basketball. Their football program is abysmal. North Carolina offers elite basketball, a very respectable baseball program, and a football program that has some potential.
One issue the Big Ten and SEC are facing is that, say what you will, Notre Dame is the winning prize that remains. How would taking on a couple of ACC schools affect your conference structure? You want to leave a seat at the table for them.
In all seriousness, Virginia offers really good baseball and basketball. Their football program is abysmal. North Carolina offers elite basketball, a very respectable baseball program, and a football program that has some potential.
One issue the Big Ten and SEC are facing is that, say what you will, Notre Dame is the winning prize that remains. How would taking on a couple of ACC schools affect your conference structure? You want to leave a seat at the table for them.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 7:37 am
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