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re: The 2025 PGA Championship - Champ: Scottie Scheffler

Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:08 pm to
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He got so much money from LIV it was impossible to turn it down.
Well Scottie, Rory, Tiger, likely Spieth and JT as well prove that untrue

Don’t have to hate him for it but don’t have to give him a crutch either. Not impossible to turn down. Other of his peers have done it
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 8:09 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13578 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:47 pm to
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You might be the angriest most bitter little human on the planet

Eh... he's just a pathetic short little shite. Fun for a laugh.... at least there's that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108098 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:25 pm to
He finished 8th for a guy with odds in the top 4
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62990 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:29 pm to
Yeah I am just sad he’s not playing on tour anymore. He’s easily the guy I miss the most. He is fun as shite to watch when he’s competing down the stretch on a big stage
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15731 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Wouldn't be shocked if his boy Puig finishes better than 5 shots.

Really nailed that one too
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:12 pm to
Mickelson went from American golden boy to an absolute unlikable douche when he went to LIV.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62990 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:19 pm to
Kiawah should have been the crowning moment for Phil’s career. It seems like a long time ago now but that was one of the first sporting events with a full crowd post COVID, at a signature course at a time when most everyone thought Phil was done winning majors. It was electric and its shame the LIV stuff has overshadowed it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Mingo shaking mad


Yep
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16799 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 5:44 am to
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Someone polled players in the early 2000’s, and Phil was universally the least liked player and some Tour players said his good guy persona was just for the fans.



Hence the nickname FIGJAM
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64491 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:42 am to
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Mickelson went from American golden boy to an absolute unlikable douche when he went to LIV.


So you let the media tell you what to think? You liked him because the media told you to, or you now hate him because the media told you to.

Phil told everyone that the PGA is hiding money from the players. The PGA said we don’t have any extra money. Phil helps start a new professional golf league and then the PGA says, “hey, we found a bunch of extra money and here is how we will give it back to the players.”

Phil was right.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4510 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:10 am to
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Kiawah should have been the crowning moment for Phil’s career.


Agree. And it was a tremendous career.

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It was electric and its shame the LIV stuff has overshadowed it


FIGJAM has no one to blame but himself. Unlike Rahm, Bryson and Niemann, to name a few, he didn't just join the LIV exhibition league; he worked hard to create it while trying to tear apart the PGA and spreading silly lies about "growing the game."

He didn't care about the game, the Tour, other players, or his place in history as a golfing icon off the course. He wanted a big bag of money as his career was winding down - and he wanted it NOW.

FIGJAM got his big bag, and now he is dealing with public perception of what he did to get it, where he got it from, and the public reveal that he's actually always been a greedy, selfish, and lousy person.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15731 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:33 am to
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He didn't care about the game, the Tour, other players, or his place in history as a golfing icon off the course.


Did you get that from Chamblee or Shipnuck?

He did what he did to improve the PGA Tour for the players & it did.

Phil in 2021:
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he added that the Gulf state’s investment into the game was a “once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates.”

“As nice a guy as [Monahan] comes across as, unless you have leverage, he won’t do what’s right. And the Saudi [Public Investment Fund] money has finally given us that leverage. I’m not sure I even want [the league that would become LIV Golf] to succeed, but just the idea of it is allowing us to get things done with the [PGA] Tour.”

This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:54 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15731 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:39 am to
Tiger’s best year, he won ~$10M.
Scottie won >$60M last year.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108098 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:43 am to
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hey, we found a bunch of extra money and here is how we will give it back to the players.
Except the exact opposite was true. There was no extra money and to increase prize money they had to go into reserves and reduce the fields and Phil was proven 100% wrong when this happened

And then to get more money they had to strike a deal with PE. They extra money narrative was proven to be absolutely false with every move the PGA was forced to make
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:51 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15731 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:53 am to
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There was no extra money and to increase prize money they had to go into reserves


Most of it came from the PGA Tour revenues from their media rights deal. Plenty of articles from 2022 with that info.
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And then to get more money they had to strike a deal with PE.

Phil also proposed that to Jay before leaving for LIV.
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Mickelson also revealed a $1 BN peace offer involving "eight elevated events" he had put to the Tour before defecting to LIV. He wrote: "Before I left I brought a $1 billion commitment from a current PGA Tour partner to have 8 elevated events and give equity and ownership in these events to the players. JM's quote was: 'I don't believe the league is going to happen so we won't be doing that.' No vote, no discussion."
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108098 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:02 am to
And pretty much everyone agrees the limited fields are shite. It’s a greedy money grab for the top players. It weakens the growth of the game and just makes it easier to put money in the guys pockets.

Nothing Phil said was accurate. They weren’t just sitting on money. To increase purses they had to tap into reserves, cut the field almost in half so the pot was split less, and then also involve PE

acting like that isn’t major changes and the money bag was just in the corner of the room is wild
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 9:06 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15731 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:08 am to
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And pretty much everyone agrees the limited fields are shite.

No they don’t

I think everyone agrees that the non-signature events are shite.
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Nothing Phil said was accurate. They weren’t just sitting on money. To increase purses they had to tap into reserves, cut the field almost in half so the pot was split less, and then also involve PE

You’re just ignoring facts. I posted above that Phil said the Tour should do all of those things & then that’s exactly what happened. How is that not accurate?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108098 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:11 am to
Maybe follow, I’m responding to this

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hey, we found a bunch of extra money and here is how we will give it back to the players.


The truth is “hey we had to make some pretty radical changes to get extra money to try and compete with an unlimited sovereign fund not concerned about ROI”

If the tour was just sitting on the pot of gold they wouldn’t have had to make all the changes to get the money…
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 9:14 am
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