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re: Template is now “grown arse men” per CUM
Posted on 1/23/26 at 8:58 am to The Third Leg
Posted on 1/23/26 at 8:58 am to The Third Leg
Indiana had 47 players that were at least 23 years old when the college football season started. 47. They have one of the oldest college football rosters in the history of the sport and by far the oldest this year. 80% of their roster was 21 years or older. Where are all the 18-20 year olds?
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:04 am to Gravitiger
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The average age of Indiana's starters (not roster, starters) was 22.4. That means they are mostly normal college seniors/RS seniors.
Hang on. I mean that average value also suggests that there’s a handful of players who are like 24 years old lmao. Unless the starters are all hovering around 22-23 years in age, which is also striking me as a very old roster. This also needs to be considered in light of today’s roster turnover at 99% of programs. This isn’t 2005.
Idk I feel like it’s a valid point that they had a very, very senior roster. And theres a lot of nuance to defining an “old” roster, like how long they’ve been playing together, relevancy of the ages for bench players who rotate in frequently as opposed to the irrelevancy of the ones who don’t, etc.
It’s a very Reddit, “I just started watching football 3 months ago because Go Hoosiers and screw Bama lol,” thing to just pull a random stat and say “see the roster wasn’t that old.” Most unbiased voices in the sport all agree it’s a very old roster, but who cares. Again, it’s dumb Reddit-tier fans who need to have their cake, and eat it too, and show it to all their friends and family without anyone saying a word against it.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:14 am to Gravitiger
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The average age of Indiana's starters (not roster, starters) was 22.4. That means they are mostly normal college seniors/RS seniors.
That’s a lie and outright one at that.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:21 am to sgallo3
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Wonder why BYU doesn't have a buncha nattys if its that simple.
If you look at their records year over year and the fact they are located in Utah with another couple D1 programs close by, it actually makes the argument that older players are the way to go. They've had only one losing season in 20 years and are regularly winning 8+ games. They've only not been bowl eligible once in that run. Kind of remarkable for a school in a non-populated area that largely only recruits players that are mormon.
They were simply never going to have enough of players that were both older and top end talent to make a run at titles; but they've been very good for a very long time because of their older players.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:21 am to TheePalmetto
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That’s a lie and outright one at that.
What I like is that, even if it isn’t, as soon as one thinks about it for a few seconds, that number still implies a really really old roster lmao.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:22 am to Tifway419
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Not as fair a playing field when you have 18 year olds competing with 23 year olds.
So don’t have 18 year olds. We went through this in basketball when teams had 1 and dones and underachieved at March Madness
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:24 am to Covingtontiger77
When UNLV Basketball was running through College basketball and getting paid handsomely to do it (although probably quaint by today's standard in CFB) opposing Coaches said that these guys need to just get out of here and go Pro, they're grown mass men (any of them could have left early for the NBA) but they all stayed.
BUT that was CBB back then...Bird was 22 in the Title game in '79 , Ewing was 22 in the Title game in '85 , Olajuwon was a Redshirt junior in the Title game (actual age probably still unknown), Duke always had old squads in the 80s (Danny Ferry, later Laetner) and the Big East (the best Conference that Era was usually full of senior stars).
Then when NBA salaries went berserk in the mid-90s, that all died and then we eventually entered the one and done era.
I guess what I'm saying is fans LOVED that era in CBB (better basketball) and never mentioned nor complained about stacking talent that seemed to be there forever....compared to universally hating the One and Done era.
So it seems CFB fan is simply pining for the sweet spot mandated by the NFL to protect themselves from the projected NBA phenom disaster drafts. You wanna get rid of the new "paid handsomely to stick around College" era...go back to the Sam Bradford $50 million guaranteed rookie days.
Until then, CFB will continue to have a soft landing spot for older players not NFL ready who frankly make the play yes, more Professional quality.... Urban Meyer also said on the Matt Barrie Show, "the play and product on the field has never been better"... with NIL, guys aren't rotting on the bench of an Alabama 3-deep.
BUT that was CBB back then...Bird was 22 in the Title game in '79 , Ewing was 22 in the Title game in '85 , Olajuwon was a Redshirt junior in the Title game (actual age probably still unknown), Duke always had old squads in the 80s (Danny Ferry, later Laetner) and the Big East (the best Conference that Era was usually full of senior stars).
Then when NBA salaries went berserk in the mid-90s, that all died and then we eventually entered the one and done era.
I guess what I'm saying is fans LOVED that era in CBB (better basketball) and never mentioned nor complained about stacking talent that seemed to be there forever....compared to universally hating the One and Done era.
So it seems CFB fan is simply pining for the sweet spot mandated by the NFL to protect themselves from the projected NBA phenom disaster drafts. You wanna get rid of the new "paid handsomely to stick around College" era...go back to the Sam Bradford $50 million guaranteed rookie days.
Until then, CFB will continue to have a soft landing spot for older players not NFL ready who frankly make the play yes, more Professional quality.... Urban Meyer also said on the Matt Barrie Show, "the play and product on the field has never been better"... with NIL, guys aren't rotting on the bench of an Alabama 3-deep.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:24 am to TheePalmetto
You do realize this is because of the NCAA waiving eligibility consumption for 2020? In the future, the 6th year guy will be rare. 5th year guys were quite common since the 3 game redshirt rule went into effect.
Nearly all of Indianas transfers came from G5 and turd P4 programs. Kent state, james Madison, Austin peay, Michigan state, Cal. Of the four Indiana defenders who made first-team All-Big Ten in 2025, three are JMU transfers—these are guys who signed with an FCS program out of HS and nobody wanted, but ermagherd, they’re a year or two older than Ohio states roster of elite talent.
Nearly all of Indianas transfers came from G5 and turd P4 programs. Kent state, james Madison, Austin peay, Michigan state, Cal. Of the four Indiana defenders who made first-team All-Big Ten in 2025, three are JMU transfers—these are guys who signed with an FCS program out of HS and nobody wanted, but ermagherd, they’re a year or two older than Ohio states roster of elite talent.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:26 am to dupergreenie
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So guys who likely were not good enough to go pro earlier is now a good thing?
Couldn't possibly be coaching....nope....
You want a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders that previously would have turned pro, but now stay in college because they can make more in NIL.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:27 am to TheePalmetto
quote:I don’t think it is
That’s a lie and outright one at that.
I did the average age of Indianas offensive starters and it was 22.18
For comparison Miami was 22.2 and ole miss 21.63
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:35 am to lsupride87
The amount of statistical framing and reframing I’m seeing on this topic reminds me of people zooming in and out of world temperature graphs when arguing about global warming lmao.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:38 am to buckRogers
I jsut did the roster completely for starters
Indiana average age of starter was 22.4
Would you like me to frame Miami, ole Miss, and Oregon as well?
Indiana average age of starter was 22.4
Would you like me to frame Miami, ole Miss, and Oregon as well?
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:43 am to buckRogers
quote:Because they are lazy and did zero actual research
Most unbiased voices in the sport all agree it’s a very old roster
Indiana, Miami, Oregon, and ole Miss average age is all within a few months of each other
Are you now saying actual facts and context is bad?
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
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I jsut did the roster completely for starters
Thats certainly a piece of it. I think they also had 47 players above the age of 22.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:52 am to More beer please
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Thats certainly a piece of it
Why?
They also have 45 freshman and RS freshman on the team
But the starters average age is 22.4
Ole Miss starters average age is 21.6
I’m working on Oregon and Miami now
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:52 am to chalmetteowl
quote:Where do you want Freshmen 18 year olds to play? I’m all for sitting a year and developing, and 18 year olds Freshman playing with guys 3-4 years older is our societal norm both in High School and College, but it’s just my opinion that a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
So don’t have 18 year olds. We went through this in basketball when teams had 1 and dones and underachieved at March Madness
I bet I’m in the majority that think that 4 year age difference should be the cut off for people in that age range. Just as you are saying don’t have 18 year olds in the sport (because they’re not good/developed enough), I think the other side is more true. Just because a 23-25 year old is not good/developed enough to play in the NFL, doesn’t mean they should continue to play in college and beat up on 18 year olds.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:56 am to lsupride87
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Would you like me to frame Miami, ole Miss, and Oregon as well?
No thanks. Anyone with a working understand of the sport knows Indiana had an unusually old roster this year. It’s fine, no (normal) person thinks that takes anything away from anyone, it’s just an observation. In any case, all this screeching about it online is largely fueled by people who are going to journey back to soccer and F1 when there’s no inspirational underdog in the sport next year.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:57 am to buckRogers
quote:Ok
No thanks. Anyone with a working understand of the sport knows Indiana had an unusually old roster this year. It’s fine,
Ole Miss was 7 months younger on average. How does that make you feel?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:57 am to lsupride87
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How does that make you feel?
It makes me feel like you need something better to do with your day sir.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:58 am to Rrrrroger
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It really is incredible how quickly they’ve ruined college sports
It was never a doubt that this was very possible, yet the morons cried for years that "we need to pay the players their fair share!!!"
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