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re: Ted Williams Goat hitter
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:00 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:00 pm to lsupride87
quote:On average, is it harder to hit the modern day pitcher or the average pitcher when Ted Williams played?
After typing this you sound like a liberal cock sucking woke pussy
For a bonus question, how much harder would you say your choice would be compare to the other?
Dont mind the bonus question if you’d like.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:02 pm
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:10 pm to ReauxlTide222
What a horrendous argument.
Are you arguing that hitting hasn't evolved over the years too? I would also say pitchers in his era were throwing from a higher mound.
Are you arguing that hitting hasn't evolved over the years too? I would also say pitchers in his era were throwing from a higher mound.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:19 pm to WestCoastAg
Dude, if you compiled every existing AB on film of Ted Williams, add them up, you couldn’t find a present day MLB player who batted that many ABs w/o one check swing
It’s not just one man’s recollection
Not one pitcher that ever threw him a pitch claimed that they witnessed it. Not one fan that ever saw him play. Not Pesky, not Dom DiMaggio, or his rival brother, Joe
It’s not just one man’s recollection
Not one pitcher that ever threw him a pitch claimed that they witnessed it. Not one fan that ever saw him play. Not Pesky, not Dom DiMaggio, or his rival brother, Joe
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:20 pm to wahoocs
quote:how many of these exist?
, if you compiled every existing AB on film of Ted Williams
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:22 pm to WestCoastAg
Im sure enough to eclipse the number needed by a present day player not to have a check swing
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:22 pm to wahoocs
Maybe. That seems super sketchy, like almost to where I dont believe it, but at least possible I guess so whatever. But I'm absolutely calling bullshite on him literally never checking his swing
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:26 pm to Jcorye1
quote:No, I’m not arguing that.
Are you arguing that hitting hasn't evolved over the years too?
My argument is pitching has evolved precisely into what it is now. It is much harder to hit now.
And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:27 pm to WestCoastAg
Dude
I’m not making it up
It was a much discussed topic. They literally asked anyone alive if they had seen just once Ted Williams check his swing
I’m not making it up
It was a much discussed topic. They literally asked anyone alive if they had seen just once Ted Williams check his swing
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
Let me reverse this.
Hitting is what it is now.
Some nerd topping out at 70 mph in 1939 would almost assuredly never have what it takes to play Major League Baseball today. And he surely would not have much of a chance to be the GOAT.
Hitting is what it is now.
Some nerd topping out at 70 mph in 1939 would almost assuredly never have what it takes to play Major League Baseball today. And he surely would not have much of a chance to be the GOAT.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:29 pm to wahoocs
quote:im sorry I'll drop this but ok
They literally asked anyone alive if they had seen just once Ted Williams check his swing
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:33 pm to WestCoastAg
Why aren’t you absolutely grilling me right now? 
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
Because this other thing is even more ridiculous to me
And I'm too busy watching walker Buehler be 6 outs from a no hitter
And I'm too busy watching walker Buehler be 6 outs from a no hitter
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:37 pm to rsbd
Thread. Ok
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:39 pm to wahoocs
quote:Do you think Ted Williams might check swing if all a pitcher had was a 101 mph fastball and a devastating 89 mph slider that he threw from the same arm slot?
Dude, if you compiled every existing AB on film of Ted Williams, add them up, you couldn’t find a present day MLB player who batted that many ABs w/o one check swing
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:40 pm to WestCoastAg
I’m going to jump into your corner and pretend like I’m not making the worst posts in here
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:41 pm to rsbd
Barry Bonds was the GOAT.
I don't give AF about what drugs he was on.
I don't give AF about what drugs he was on.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:44 pm to BeepNode
How many HRs do you think Barry Bonds has from 1939 to whenever Ted quit?
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
Every player is judged in relation to players from his time
Of course no one is going to get to 511 wins on the mound, or lead the league in HRs w 9 in a full season
And there were some 95 mph pitchers during his time. Feller probably the most well known velocity wise.
Of course no one is going to get to 511 wins on the mound, or lead the league in HRs w 9 in a full season
And there were some 95 mph pitchers during his time. Feller probably the most well known velocity wise.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
its not that i disagree. i absolutely think you are right, and its not even arguable, that pitching is simply better now. the velocities and the movement and tunneling are simply better. no argument in any way, shape, or form
but i also think that assumes we exist in a vacuum, when we dont. would ted williams still exist if he played in 2021? idk, he was never given a chance. would mike trout be what mike trout is today if he existed in the 30s and 40s? idk. he didnt
its more important to judge players on how they do against their contemporaries imo. especially when theres 80 to 90 years between them
but i also think that assumes we exist in a vacuum, when we dont. would ted williams still exist if he played in 2021? idk, he was never given a chance. would mike trout be what mike trout is today if he existed in the 30s and 40s? idk. he didnt
its more important to judge players on how they do against their contemporaries imo. especially when theres 80 to 90 years between them
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:51 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
How many HRs do you think Barry Bonds has from 1939 to whenever Ted quit?
I have no idea, but Barry Bonds was an unbelievable hitter in his prime. He had to be very patient because pitchers were happy to just walk him. Home runs is a single metric.
They intentionally walked Bonds with the bases loaded, for Christ's sake.
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