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Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:27 pm to Tigerholic
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Did they throw mid 90s then?
Feller was clocked at over 100. Radar guns weren't as good back then but the best pitchers were top notch.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:42 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Don't believe the 70-mph fastball BS
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:45 pm to rsbd
I am a huge Ted Williams fan, his autographed picture is on my wall...but there was only one Ty Cobb, the greatest ever!
Posted on 6/20/21 at 3:38 pm to Tiger in Texas
Ted Williams was said to have been the best WW2 fighter pilot the USA had. His hand eye coordination was amazing.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:09 pm to Indiangensing
Ted was a hell of a pilot, but he never saw combat in WW2
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:16 am to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:59 am to ReauxlTide222
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On average, is it harder to hit the modern day pitcher or the average pitcher when Ted Williams played?
Do you have any idea of the doctoring of the ball that happened back then? Pitches had tons of movement. 72 mph fastball? Where are you getting that one from?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:25 am to VABuckeye
He's an idiot Bama fan
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:59 am to FightinTigersDammit
The average Major League fastball in the 80s was 89 MPH. Pitchers probably threw in the mid 80s during Williams time. But I don't think it's that important. There was an anecdote from Bill James about HOF 2B Charlie Gehringer comparing the fastballs of Walter Johnson and Bob Feller. Gehringer said Johnson threw much harder than Feller. Well, Gehringer hit against Walter Johnson when he was a green 23-year-old rookie who was just getting used to Major League pitching. Hitting against a pitcher like Johnson as an inexperienced player overwhelmed him. When Gehringer hit against Feller, he was a 38-year-old veteran who had been in the Majors for 15 years and seen tens of thousands of Major League fastballs. An upper velocity fastball was nothing to him because he had seen it so many times and gotten used to it. I feel the same way about how some of the great players from the past would do in today's game. They would be overwhelmed early on and then get used to seeing upper velocity fastballs and produce at a high level. A hitter like Williams would be great in any era.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:08 am to VABuckeye
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Do you have any idea of the doctoring of the ball that happened back then? Pitches had tons of movement. 72 mph fastball? Where are you that one from?
Ken Burns is somewhat reliable and it was amazing to hear during the Ty Cobb era...they'd use one ball for the entire game and pitchers would scuff it up so much, the ball would be black and lost to the batter in the twilight.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:44 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
And spitballs were legal
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
He wouldn't concern himself with launch angles and some of the other bs, but he would still be one of the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
He wouldn't concern himself with launch angles and some of the other bs, but he would still be one of the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
He wouldn't concern himself with launch angles and some of the other bs, but he would still be one of the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
He wouldn't concern himself with launch angles and some of the other bs, but he would still be one of the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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And the odds of Ted Williams being able to hit today’s pitching(even as a modern day player himself) so well that we see him as the GOAT are very low.
He wouldn't concern himself with launch angles and some of the other bs, but he would still be one of the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:19 pm to Bunk Moreland
Barry Bonds is the GOAT hitter
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:31 pm to rsbd
GOAT hitter
And American Hero who served his country proudly during a War!
And American Hero who served his country proudly during a War!
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:37 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Actually 2 wars
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