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Taking a QB with a Top 10 pick is dumb
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:21 pm
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I have always said this. This link shows the Qb's taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. Mahomes is the best QB taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. you want a 90% change of wasting a first round pick take a Qb
I have always said this. This link shows the Qb's taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. Mahomes is the best QB taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. you want a 90% change of wasting a first round pick take a Qb
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:25 pm to hawkeye007
What’s the hit rate on QBs taken outside the top 10?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:25 pm to hawkeye007
quote:
I have always said this. This link shows the Qb's taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. Mahomes is the best QB taken in the first round in the last 10yrs. you want a 90% change of wasting a first round pick take a Qb
Mahomes may be the best QB ever taken in a draft ever
You are dumb if you think he's the only good QB on the list. I don't even have to look at the list to know that:
Burrow
Allen
Herbert
Luck
Lawrence
Tua
Were all first rounders and good NFL QBs. Add in Watson, Goff, Winston, and Jackson and that's 1/3 of the starters in the NFL right now
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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What’s the hit rate on QBs taken outside the top 10?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:28 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:28 pm to hawkeye007
Doesn’t really answer the question
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:29 pm to hawkeye007
That's a lot of starters and good QB's on that list. You're trying to compare them to possibly a once in a generation type QB?
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:29 pm to Buckeye06
The class of 2020 looks to be the exception over the last 10yrs.
Do you want Watson,Winston as your Qb?
Do you want Watson,Winston as your Qb?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:30 pm to hawkeye007
Yeah that Stroud guy looks like he is not going to pan out
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:32 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
What’s the hit rate on QBs taken outside the top 10?
he cant talk about that because it then makes his BS argument as dumb as it already sounds.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:33 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
You are dumb if you think he's the only good QB on the list. I don't even have to look at the list to know that:
Burrow
Allen
Herbert
Luck
Lawrence
Tua
Were all first rounders and good NFL QBs. Add in Watson, Goff, Winston, and Jackson and that's 1/3 of the starters in the NFL right now
I don't want to jump the gun but Stroud is looking pretty damn good for 4 games in a rookie season.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
This thread is cracking me up. Statistics are hard.
Exactly.
Anyway, I counted 19 of them being drafted in the first round from that list. So that doesn't bode well for OPs point.
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Doesn’t really answer the question
Exactly.
Anyway, I counted 19 of them being drafted in the first round from that list. So that doesn't bode well for OPs point.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:36 pm to hawkeye007
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The class of 2020 looks to be the exception over the last 10yrs.
A QB outside the first round materializing into a good NFL QB is a bigger exception to the norm. The hit rate for first round players, in general, isn't great but it's better than the hit rates for later rounds.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:40 pm to lsufball19
The most important player on your team. If you evaluate as good. You take him as quickly as you can.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:46 pm to hawkeye007
Everyone has a starting QB. That's not really the appropriate analysis. Not all of those players are good. It's who are the best QBs. Plus or minus a few I think most would agree with this list
Mahomes
Burrow
Allen
Hurts
Herbert
Tua
Jackson
Lawrence
Of that group, 6 of 8 were taken with top 10 picks.
That's not to say every top 10 QB pick will pan out. Nor does it say a QB MUST be taken in the top 10 to be great. But the probably to hitting on a great QB with a pick outside the top 10 is statistically lower (perhaps much lower) than the rate of hitting on one taken in the top 10
Mahomes
Burrow
Allen
Hurts
Herbert
Tua
Jackson
Lawrence
Of that group, 6 of 8 were taken with top 10 picks.
That's not to say every top 10 QB pick will pan out. Nor does it say a QB MUST be taken in the top 10 to be great. But the probably to hitting on a great QB with a pick outside the top 10 is statistically lower (perhaps much lower) than the rate of hitting on one taken in the top 10
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:48 pm to castorinho
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Anyway, I counted 19 of them being drafted in the first round from that list. So that doesn't bode well for OPs point.
And of the dudes outside the first round, most of them are not good/backups.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
if the 32 NFL Teams
15 have Starting QBs taken in the top 10
5 have QBs in picks 11-32
4 have 2nd round QBs
2 Have 3rd around QBs
3 have 3rd around QBs
2 have 2nd around QBs
1 has a 7th around QB
3 of those are backups
OConnel (4th) for Jimmy G (2nd)
Dobbs (4th) for Kyler (1 of 1)
Thompson-Robinson (5th) for Watson (12 of 1)
15 have Starting QBs taken in the top 10
5 have QBs in picks 11-32
4 have 2nd round QBs
2 Have 3rd around QBs
3 have 3rd around QBs
2 have 2nd around QBs
1 has a 7th around QB
3 of those are backups
OConnel (4th) for Jimmy G (2nd)
Dobbs (4th) for Kyler (1 of 1)
Thompson-Robinson (5th) for Watson (12 of 1)
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:52 pm to hawkeye007
Do you know what is even dumber? Take a too small QB #1 and trading away a potential top 5 pick the next year and your best WR for it.
Stupid arse Panthers.
Stupid arse Panthers.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:09 pm to Buckeye06
If anything, the worst investments are drafting a QB outside of the top 10 in the first round. Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson have been the only QBs worth a damn drafted in the 11-32 range over the past 15 years. Usually, QBs drafted in that range are guys who either dropped due to significant flaws or were huge reaches.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:27 pm to hawkeye007
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Discussing QBs with hawkeye007 is dumb
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