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re: Superstars in MLB

Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:36 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Catering to the more casual baseball fan, Wright, Longoria, and Howard aren't the names of those that I listed IMO.




Longoria is close to the top of the list.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:37 am to
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his good looks


gAyno sandberg
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:39 am to
Guess I just don't see him as much as the others.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:40 am to
Hehe

My girlfriend knows who Wright it. She has no idea who Halladay or Lee are.

Alls I meant was the lady fans know him
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:41 am to
I was talking about Hamilton's injury the other day here at work and one of my coworkers (female) goes "Oh, you mean the hot one?"

I go "Just how in the frick do you want me to respond to that?"

This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 9:42 am
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:46 am to
Buen cuento vato!
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Do you realize these are all quotes from you in THIS thread? You are acting like GamecockAlum.



for someone who claims to own a baseball school, you sure dont understand much about that game

25/80 for a 1B is not equal to the same numbers for a SS. Come on dude.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 12:46 pm to
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Do you realize these are all quotes from you in THIS thread? You are acting like GamecockAlum.

I've got sig dibs on this. Not because of anything you've said LE, I just think it's awesome that GCA is now who we compare a poster we think is saying stupid shite to.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Lester, you still a good ole HR/RBI/Avg guy?



I look at everything.


i have a huge pet peeve regarding people who watch very little baseball but base everything on stats.

for instance saying Votto has been the 2nd best player in baseball the last 3 years.

08 he had a great rookie season, but hardly one of the best in the league

09 was strong, but not elite

2010 he had an MVP season. And is not one of the top 10 hitters in the game.

he simply hasn't been the 2nd best player in baseball the last 3 years because advanced metrics says he is.



btw

quote:

Tulo's last 40 games:.318, 1.225 OPS, 22 HR, 52 RBI
Posted by LfcSU3520
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

he simply hasn't been the 2nd best player in baseball the last 3 years because advanced metrics says he is.



I'm confused. If numbers show that he has been, how do you argue that?

Superstars imo:

Hamilton
Pujols
Lincecum
Jeter
ARod
Possibly: Halladay, Lee, Mauer
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:03 pm to
Would you say Lince over Halladay and Lee due to looks? More "out there" in terms of ads, etc? Halladay and Lee are superstars in my mind due to talent level and production... But I know that to a casual fan the marketability aspect is big.

eta: good luck tonight.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:11 pm
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:12 pm to
yeah. They're known for high levels of success, on par with his in baseball circles, but I think he's more of a recognizable guy.

GQ cover etc.
Posted by 1ranter1
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

I don't hate the guy as much as a lot of Rangers fans do


I honestly don't understand why Ranger fans hate Arod. Like at all.

While in Texas he had one of the best 3 year stretches in baseball history. He probably actually outperformed his contract. And it wasn't like he started bitching and demanding to be moved out of Texas, the Rangers chose to move him to cut salary (if I remember correctly).
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:13 pm to
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but I think he's more of a recognizable guy.

GQ cover etc.


that's what I figured.

while it's good for the sport to have recognizable guys, it says a lot about "fans" when they would be able to pick Lince out of a crowd and not Halladay, Lee, etc.

sign of the times though.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:15 pm to
I'm guessing it has more to do with a growing dislike of him that has been applied after the fact.

Posted by barry
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:16 pm to
No Votto?

Snub!


ETA: What frick is up with coco crisp hair
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:17 pm
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:16 pm to
a lot of that is rooted in personality though. Halladay's 2k11 commercials are a good example. Non descript, and in one of them he makes it about his catcher. There is no 'look at me' and that's by choice.

Cliff is same in that you really don't know or hear anything about him off the field.

On the field, they're both about as superstar as you can be, but it ends there.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:19 pm
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:17 pm to
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I honestly don't understand why Ranger fans hate Arod. Like at all.

While in Texas he had one of the best 3 year stretches in baseball history. He probably actually outperformed his contract. And it wasn't like he started bitching and demanding to be moved out of Texas, the Rangers chose to move him to cut salary (if I remember correctly).


there's a lot of angst from Rangers fans toward the Yanks, the playoff meetings being what they had been previously.

His numbers that he put up were incredible. But like I said, it was "because" of him that the Rangers had the bankruptcy deal, etc. While he wasn't the only one, he was the primary bread winner- he was getting paid no matter what.

So... I hate the management for what they did to get the Rangers in that predicament, and A-Rod was a leading cause of that. For a lot of Rangers fans, they don't make the cross over... Easier just to blame it on A-Rod I guess.

Personally, I just don't like the way the guy presents himself.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:17 pm
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:18 pm to
Votto is one of those inside the game superstars but it probably ends there.

The all star game snub is pretty telling.
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