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re: Superstars in MLB
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:18 pm to LfcSU3520
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:18 pm to LfcSU3520
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a lot of that is rooted in personality though. Halladay's 2k11 commercial are a good example. Non descript, and in one of them he makes it about his catcher. There is no 'look at me' and that's by choice.
Cliff is same in that you really don't know or hear anything about him of field.
On the field, they're both about as superstar as you can be, but it ends there.
very true.
I've always tended to like the guys that were quiet but got the job done at a high level like your Lees, Halladays, Pudges (one of my all-time favorites for obvious reason), etc. etc.
But like I said, the marketable guys are great for the promotion of the game, jersey sales, and they get asses in seats.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:20 pm
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Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:20 pm to SCUBABlake
yeah those are the guys that baseball fans usually love but that's also because they're exposed to them.
For people who go to one game a year or barely have a passing interest, they don't even register on their radar.
For people who go to one game a year or barely have a passing interest, they don't even register on their radar.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:20 pm to LfcSU3520
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The all star game snub is pretty telling.
absolute garbage.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:22 pm to SCUBABlake
I'd maybe throw Ichiro into that superstar category as well but I'd have to really think about it.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:23 pm to LfcSU3520
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Superstars imo:
Hamilton
Pujols
Lincecum
Jeter
ARod
Possibly: Halladay, Lee, Mauer
Good list. Sadly, Brian Wilson's beard is nearing an invite to that list, and I would consider Howard on the possibly list.
Another thing is that there a ton of superstar players talent wise, but not a household name, in smaller markets such as Tulo, Longoria, Hanley, Votto, etc.
What is really a shame is how there are considered so few superstars, in terms of being a household name, in comparison to other major sports. I blame MLB marketing for not having about 15-20 superstars in the league because there are enough great players to fit that bill.
ETA: I agree that Ichiro is a superstar.
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:24 pm to LfcSU3520
His popularity has tapered quite a bit, though his production really hasn't all that much.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:26 pm to SCUBABlake
IMO JHam became a "superstar" after his ridiculous HR derby performance.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:27 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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What is really a shame is how there are considered so few superstars
yeah but fans choose who and what is interesting to them.
Look at Braden last year. Probably got just as much attention for the 'get off my mound' stuff as he did his perfect game. Baseball fans are amazed by the perfect game, while casual viewers probably ate up the fight with ARod.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:29 pm to LfcSU3520
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Look at Braden last year. Probably got just as much attention for the 'get off my mound' stuff as he did his perfect game. Baseball fans are amazed by the perfect game, while casual viewers probably ate up the fight with ARod.
Speaking of unwritten rules. While you're here....
Some guy on here said the other day it was bush league to "time" your swing from the on deck circle. Thoughts? Also can we get your top 3 things a batter can do to get plunked by you?
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:30 pm to barry
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IMO JHam became a "superstar" after his ridiculous HR derby performance.
I agree. He always had the comeback story going for him, but that cemented it. Last season didn't hurt either.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:31 pm to LfcSU3520
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Look at Braden last year. Probably got just as much attention for the 'get off my mound' stuff as he did his perfect game. Baseball fans are amazed by the perfect game, while casual viewers probably ate up the fight with ARod.
yep. that and the Galarraga near-perfect game.
that still pains me to watch it.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:31 pm to barry
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Also can we get your top 3 things a batter can do to get plunked by you?
This post was edited on 4/15/11 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:31 pm to LfcSU3520
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Look at Braden last year. Probably got just as much attention for the 'get off my mound' stuff as he did his perfect game. Baseball fans are amazed by the perfect game, while casual viewers probably ate up the fight with ARod.
Exactly. Also, Braden's perfect game really made people think that he is way better than he is, no offense to him. For example, I remember ESPN recently had a poll about which A's starter is the best (I voted for you, FWIW). Cahill received like 28% of the vote and Braden was 26%-27%. I think that there is a pretty substantial gap between the two because I really like Cahill, and I even made an off-the-wall pick for him as my Cy Young. Braden, on the other hand, is a good middle to back of the rotation type guy, but he receives almost as much respect as an all-star and guy who just signed an extension just due to nine perfect innings.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:32 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Wow. How did I miss this thread?
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Braden, on the other hand, is a good middle to back of the rotation type guy, but he receives almost as much respect as an all-star and guy who just signed an extension just due to nine perfect innings.
Braden = Halladay
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:33 pm to barry
number one will always be taking your sweet arse time getting in the box.
A horrible blatant pimp job
then not really sure
A horrible blatant pimp job
then not really sure
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:35 pm to SCUBABlake
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Braden = Halladay
To the common fan, Braden > Cahill or at least Braden = Cahill.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:35 pm to LfcSU3520
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number one will always be taking your sweet arse time getting in the box.
You have to wait until Jeter gives you the head nod brah.
Posted on 4/15/11 at 2:37 pm to BayouBengals03
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You have to wait until Jeter gives you the head nod brah.
I was about to say, when do you pitch against the yankees, cause their whole fricking team takes forever.
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