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re: Sports rules you would like to see changed

Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26134 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:36 pm to
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If your entire argument rests on the end zones simply being special, then any special penalty can be argued with your logic.


I don't think this captures the complete thrust of the argument. The end zone is special AND it is the stronghold of the defending team. If you lose the most important thing in the defender's stronghold (and as a result, you haven't taken the stronghold), that thing belongs to the defenders. Obviously, that's not determinative in the debate as your opinion differs, but I just wanted to point out that the argument is more nuanced than that.

As to rules, I would prefer an end to a rule being ignored. I hate when players are in the field of play, outside of goal line related plays (which incidentally also have a special rule for this situation), reach the ball out when they have been stopped, then bring the ball back in to their bodies and they are awarded forward progress on the reach. The rule has always and forever been that you forfeit forward progress when you give ground. If the ball is stretched out but brought back before the runner is down (or deemed to be down), the officials should not give them the distance created by the reach out of the ball.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40334 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
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you mean the entire game? Why do you get points in basketball when the ball goes through the hoop? You folks are just arguing to argue at this point.


It’s just a line on the field what makes the end zone different? Why should treat crossing it differently?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70462 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:02 pm to
Because the play is dead as soon as the ball crosses the plane. During a normal run, the play isn’t dead until the runner is down or out of bounds. That’s not the case with the endzone. As soon as the ball crosses, the play os over.

As for the fumble through the endzone, I think that’s an interesting rule because fumbles everywhere else return to the spot where it was fumbled. It’s only there where the yard line where it went out of bounds matters at all.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26134 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Because the play is dead as soon as the ball crosses the plane. During a normal run, the play isn’t dead until the runner is down or out of bounds. That’s not the case with the endzone. As soon as the ball crosses, the play os over.


Yes, I know. That's why I specifically excluded that from my post.

Officials have been applying the goal line reach ruling in other places on the field for first downs and the like. I remember Brees jumping and holding out the ball for a first down then bringing it back in short of the line to gain and going down and he was found to pick up the first down. Lest you think I'm picking on the Saints, I think the Steelers did the same thing to the Saints last year when a wide receiver did the same thing.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28016 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:45 pm to
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No matter what parameter you set for it to be offside, there will still be VAR reviews for the closest of calls
I’m not against VAR. I’m against such a strict application of offsides calls.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:32 pm to
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College football needs to go back to the old clock rules.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10851 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:40 pm to
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I'd like to see CFB go to 2 feet in for a catch like the NFL.


NFL go to 1 foot in.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41211 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:40 pm to
Get rid of the possession arrow in college hoops
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8697 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:11 pm to
How do you handle tie balls or dead balls then?
Posted by Guido Merkens
Member since Mar 2006
4363 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:34 pm to
Automated / Video Umpires in MLB
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13242 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:07 am to
If like to see the nfl only require one foot in bounds.
Both college and nfl even though there is alot of holding - I don’t know that if there is a way to not call holding if it doesn’t really help the ball carrier
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8697 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:55 am to
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If like to see the nfl only require one foot in bounds.


I like that the NFL requires a more difficult standard than college.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35920 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:44 am to
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No more spot foul for PI
Worst rule in sports.

I’d say change offsides rules in soccer, but soccer fans love them some 1-0 98 minute games.

I’d get rid of offsides once the ball passed midfield.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:29 am to
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Fumble out the endzone

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:29 am to
Icing rule in the NHL.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10698 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:32 am to
College football needs to change the rules back to they way they were in 2005. Do that and I'd be happy.

Now if you want to make me really happy, also change the following:

-Eliminate throwing the ball away. If you try to run a pass play and can't find an open receiver because the defense is doing its job too well, why should you get a "get out of jail free" card? Take the sack or throw the INT like a man.

-Change pass interference from a ticky-tack touch penalty to only apply if the defender tackles, trips, or shoves down the receiver. Otherwise if you want to catch a pass, fight for the pass.

Basically the passing game gets too favorable treatment from the current rules, which is why football is moving to a pass-happy sport. The object of the ruleset should be balance, both between offense and defense, and between rushing and passing.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:35 am to
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Get rid of holding in football. It’s the most convenient penalty on both sides of the ball.

You want to give the offense an advantage, get rid of holding.

Holding is the definition of "advantage/disadvantage".
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:36 am to
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Touchback and change of possession for a fumble into the endzone is the most idiotic fricking rule in all of sports. Anyone that likes it only likes it for nostalgia. It makes no sense to penalize a team after they drive it all the way down the field. A touchback with possession retained perhaps, but a turnover is dumb and always has been dumb

LOL.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:46 am to
CFB-runner falls and is down i would rather see he has to be touched
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20402 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:48 am to
right... in the red zone, 4th down? just fumble that thang out of the endzone and get another first
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