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re: Sooooo let’s talk about the final play in Penn State/IU
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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In fairness, you seem to be the only one that doesnt see the ball breaking the plane before it hits the ground
Sure. Me and the several other posters in this thread who said the same. And the majority in the game thread. And the analysts the next day.
An impartial view says we don't know that it did or didn't just by looking at it, so not sure what you're seeing, other than a weird bias.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:40 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Because there's no evidence the ball ever crossed or touched the line before hitting the ground and normal people agree that the ref made his decision solely on the pylon.
Just so we're clear on this there has to be clear evidence that the ball didn't cross the end zone line before the ball touched out of bounds, not that it did cross since that was the call on the field. You might think it didn't cross but obviously there is no clear conclusive evidence.
Penn State should consider putting an interlocking A and U on the side of their helmet if they want to get these sort of calls.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:11 am to Roll on Tigers
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Personally, I think the ball touched out of bounds a millisecond before it hit the pylon
Me too, but did it break the plane of the goal line before it touched the ground? We don’t know for sure. Probably not, but that’s not enough to overturn. This was a judgement call that could not be overturned because the video evidence was not conclusive. Correct call by the replay guys, imo.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:21 am to Roger Klarvin
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Where is a punt marked OOB?
If a punter kicked the ball so that it broke the plane of the oob, then because of spin, came back into play and landed inbounds, it would be a live ball.
Similarly, a QB, rolling out, steps right before going out of bounds, leaps in the air, and with his body in the air but completely out of bounds, throws the ball to a receiver in bounds, will have a completed pass.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:22 am to Penrod
Yeah, he isn't getting the rule that kicks (punts) that go our of bounds have a different rule.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It isn't clear at all.
So you agree the call should stand?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
So you choose to miss the point. Got it.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:25 pm to KosmoCramer
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So you agree the call should stand?
I've said so about a dozen times.
That doesn't make it the right call on the field, and certainly doesn't make it "clearly" anything.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:25 pm to 62zip
You're lost, friend.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're lost, friend.
Not at all, but if that makes you feel better.
It would have worked better if you had actually read what I said without reading into it a bunch of shite that wasn't there.
Carry on.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:25 pm to 62zip
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Not at all
Of course you are.
There's no other reason for you to be arguing with me about points I didn't make.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 5:38 pm to VABuckeye
Yep. You could jump OOB and reach back and hit the side of the pylon
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:52 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I just don't know why the burden is so high on review?
They have the slo-mo, frame by frame, multiple angles technology...why give so much deference to the bang-bang call on the field?
"Indisputable evidence?"
We send people to the gas chamber for far less a burden of proof.
I think 80% of people could agree that the ball touched out of bounds before crossing the plane or hitting the pylon. It's not THAT unclear as some have made it out to be. Common sense and it more likely than not didn't cross the plane should be the standard. Not this magical indisputable evidence.
They have the slo-mo, frame by frame, multiple angles technology...why give so much deference to the bang-bang call on the field?
"Indisputable evidence?"
We send people to the gas chamber for far less a burden of proof. I think 80% of people could agree that the ball touched out of bounds before crossing the plane or hitting the pylon. It's not THAT unclear as some have made it out to be. Common sense and it more likely than not didn't cross the plane should be the standard. Not this magical indisputable evidence.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
After just reading this thread, here is my list of people to never listen to in a conversation about college football rules:
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Roger Klarvin
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:40 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Otherwise, an airborne player could score a touchdown by extending the ball across the plane extending to infinity despite being feet out of bounds.
Except this is literally the case. The goal line extends “around the world.” It’s possible to score a touchdown by going airborne and crossing the plane without any part of your body or the ball ever actually being in or over the end zone.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
I thought penn state had the myocarditis or something like that.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:55 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Except this is literally the case. The goal line extends “around the world.” It’s possible to score a touchdown by going airborne and crossing the plane without any part of your body or the ball ever actually being in or over the end zone.
Except, this literally is not the case.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
Penix fully extended and the tip broke the plane
Sorry I had to
Sorry I had to
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:02 pm to KosmoCramer
Apparently there’s still controversy about the “around the world” concept. They’ve been using that terminology for many years though; so in the spirit of stare decicis I’m sticking with it.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:05 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Apparently there’s still controversy about the “around the world” concept. They’ve been using that terminology for many years though; so in the spirit of stare decicis I’m sticking with it.
The rule was changed.
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