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Sooooo let’s talk about the final play in Penn State/IU

Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:19 pm
I know it’s a feel good underdog story, but that ball hit the ground OOB before it crosses the plane/touches he pylon. It actually crosses the OOB boundary line while still in the air, so the play should be dead even before it hit the ground. When you combine the two angles it’s pretty clear the ball is out inside the one.

If I’m a PSU fan, after I stop yelling at Franklin, I’m livid at that call.
Posted by TheDeathValley
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:20 pm to
Ok
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:21 pm to
Dottie dropped it on purpose and the IU QB had the ball hit the ground (and be out of bounds) before it crossed the plane or hit the pylon.

This is CFB, once the ball hits the ground he's down.

You don't get bonus points for it sliding forward because of physics.
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:22 pm to
Let’s not and said we did?
Posted by Roll on Tigers
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:22 pm to
Man, talk about a tough call. Since it was ruled a TD there HAS to be indisputable evidence to overturn. Personally, I think the ball touched out of bounds a millisecond before it hit the pylon
Posted by BearCrocs
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:22 pm to
Manziel? Is that you?
Posted by nineteeneighty
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:25 pm to
There wasn’t evidence of the ball not crossing plane prior to it touching ground. Therefore play on field stands. Penn st beat themselves but it is still a loss. Missing two field goals and the boneheaded touchdown at the end of the fourth quarter cost them. It couldn’t happen to a better guy, in jimmy franklin
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:26 pm to
If you have DVR and cal slow it down further during the slow mo replay it pretty clearly hits the ground before it hits the pylon.

But combined with the other angle, the ball crosses OOB while he’s airborne even before that. The ball is out as soon as it crosses over that invisible line when a player is in the air.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:27 pm to
I don't know why if people at home with DVR's can freeze it and take a picture...

That these replay officials with supposedly all the non-TV angles they have can still consistently get replay wrong.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:28 pm to
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There wasn’t evidence of the ball not crossing plane prior to it touching ground.


The ball touched the front of the pylon first, not the inside. Therefore you know the ball couldn’t have crossed before it hit the pylon, and it hits the ground before it touches the pylon.

But again, the ball was suspended over the OOB line before that which is when the play becomes dead.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:31 pm to
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the ball crosses OOB while he’s airborne even before that.


Incorrect. The ball can be in the air and hit the outside of the pylon and it’s a score. There is no out of bounds until the ball or player touches out of bounds.

I don’t think they got the call right but frick Penn State.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:33 pm to
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But again, the ball was suspended over the OOB line before that which is when the play becomes dead.


Again wrong. There is no OOB until a body part or the ball TOUCHES OOB. Touching the ground determines out of bounds. You’re way off.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35442 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:33 pm to
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Incorrect. The ball can be in the air and hit the outside of the pylon and it’s a score. There is no out of bounds until the ball or player touches out of bounds.


Yeah being in the air out of bounds doesn't matter...doesn't the plane of the goal line still extend to infinity or maybe that's the old rule.

But once the ball hits the ground, doesn't matter out of bounds or not, the play is over...and usually it's where his knee is. The ball 100% was on the ground before it crossed the plane or hit the pylon.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:34 pm to
Lol at NittanyLion. Dude is such an arrogant prick
Posted by nineteeneighty
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:34 pm to


I think he got it. Either way, one cannot definitely say he did not get the goal line. Play stands, Hoosiers win
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:35 pm to
Looked clearly short to me
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:37 pm to
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Again wrong. There is no OOB until a body part or the ball TOUCHES OOB. Touching the ground determines out of bounds. You’re way off.



Currently in CFB, when a player is not established in bounds the play is dead as soon as the ball crosses the boundary plane.

Otherwise, an airborne player could score a touchdown by extending the ball across the plane extending to infinity despite being feet out of bounds.
Posted by skinnytrees
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:37 pm to
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I don't know why if people at home with DVR's can freeze it and take a picture...

That these replay officials with supposedly all the non-TV angles they have can still consistently get replay wrong.


That fact that no one here can even agree on whether the ball crossed or not means that there is zero doubt the right call was to uphold the call as it was on the field.

If that was called short on the field it would have stood as well.

Jesus christ people.

And if you think you could call that to the mm as the ref on the goal line you are wrong.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/24/20 at 7:38 pm to
That pic is an optical illusion due to the angle. Watch where the ball first touches the pylon and you’ll see it can’t be across the GL before that.
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